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Taz
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Message 283 of 297 (358435)
10-23-2006 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by nwr
10-23-2006 11:43 PM


Re: Faith/nwr
Then do what I do and don't have anything on your computer that might lead to your demise.
Besides, it's a brand new computer. What could she possibly have on there that could enable someone to do some evil thing with her identity or whatever? The worst that could happen is she'd get a virus from a geek in a garage somewhere... what are the chances of that happening?

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3322 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 287 of 297 (358560)
10-24-2006 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by Percy
10-24-2006 9:26 AM


Re: Faith/nwr
This is more of a reply to crashfrog, nwr, and percy more than just percy. I wasn't advocating leaving your anti-virus and firewall off all the time. I was simply pointing out faith's apparent paranoia. It's as simple as leaving your firewall off for a mere half an hour to let someone look around. What, a person's going to commit federal crime by setting up illegal websites and other illegal activities in half an hour? Ok, perhaps that's possible... but then it just happens that the person is doing it at exactly the same time you turned off your firewall and finishes exactly right before you turn it back on?
Like Percy said, I'm not going to start wearing bullet proof vest anyday soon just because people are getting shot everyday nowadays. Do be careful and use precautions, but be paranoid all the time? This is the same attitude that allowed countless dictators to assume unlimited powers in the past.
Once Iano and Faith have got things going they can turn the security software back on and figure out how to add Iano to the exception list.
On a personal note, Faith just proved in this thread that she thinks not being christian is somehow not have any moral or being outright evil. I guess I'll be hacking into her computer and start selling illegal porn...
But protecting yourself by keeping no personal information on your computer, somewhat analogous to only driving your junker car into the big city, isn't really practical for most people.
Haha, to be fair, I keep my "vital" info and most of my work on a computer that never gets to be connected online. It's not because of paranoia that prompted me to use the piece of junk for work. It's because of habit.
It's the wild link clickers who get in the most trouble.
I've only gotten malware once in the past 5 years. Know what I did? Simply deleted the old partition and put in a new one. But the point is I don't go to sites that seem risky.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3322 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 290 of 297 (358570)
10-24-2006 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by crashfrog
10-24-2006 3:32 PM


Re: Faith/nwr
crashfrog writes:
What's more likely is that the hacker is trolling IPs and port scanning each one, several times a day; you turn your firewall off for a half-hour, long enough to be detected by the port scanner. The hacker's software drops a couple of rootkits onto your machine, the work of seconds. As soon as your firewall is back up they hack your registry and open a few holes in the firewall so they can report back to the master server.
At that point, firewall or no, NAT or no, it doesn't matter. The rootkit has given the hacker everything he needs to zombie your machine.
Alright, I'll take your word for it. But here's another thing. I don't know if the same thing can be found in other people's ports, but I had cable connection I had this button that when I push turns off the cable connection.
Iunno, crashfrog, but what you described seems a little much for this conservative person to take. I guess I still live in the old days where internet seemed to be safer.
Ah. So, you are a little paranoid. In other words, you operate your computer from the perspective that interactions on the internet may not necessarily be between trustworthy parties.
See what I mean when I said in another thread that you seem very persistent at misreading/misunderstanding what I write? Is knowing that it is not wise to jump into the path of a bullet paranoia?
It's called being smart. Letting fear interfere with your normal activities is paranoia.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3322 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 293 of 297 (358631)
10-24-2006 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 291 by Faith
10-24-2006 4:48 PM


Re: "paranoia"
If it makes you feel better, just think of my attitude as paranoia about paranoia.

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