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iano
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Message 31 of 297 (351123)
09-21-2006 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Faith
09-21-2006 3:09 PM


Re: so far so good today
Hope this isn't Famous Last Words but the computer has been humming away quietly the whole time I've been on this time, and I've been able to keep posting without a hitch. I had a rocky time GETTING on, went through three bootups, and got frozen out as soon as I got online once. But since I got online this time not a problem at all.
Said with all the panache of a faith+works adherant. With the same urgency as I would address one of them. Bail out! Leave it rest as much as you can until the solution comes along.

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iano
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Message 37 of 297 (351161)
09-21-2006 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Taz
09-21-2006 6:32 PM


Re: so far so good today
Faiths computer sounds like its old and going belly up. No point in throwing good money after bad. Got a link (US-side) to cheap new systems complete. She sounds like she doesn't need anything fancy or of the type whose going to go in brandishing a soldering iron (sorry sis). A bit of word/excel/explorer sounds the extent of it.

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iano
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Message 48 of 297 (351250)
09-22-2006 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Faith
09-22-2006 3:59 AM


Re: New Hard Drive
What Jazzns did was free up some RAM for you. Your computer isn't running all those startup programmes now so RAM is available to do the work you want. XP is heavy on RAM and if your computer is old then it might be a bit light in this area. I worked on a mates computer which ran either slow or stop. The advice I got included removing startup stuff but there was more you can do to free RAM.
Try runnin an msconfig and disable all startup items under the startup items tab. That will kick it up a notch, leave any virus program running thats it.
This you've done although I question what virus programme your running if nothing gets started automatically. I left his McAfee checked in the startup box. You said you ran a virus checker but have you nothing on all the time to prevent stuff coming in in the first place?
Try right clicking my computer, going to properties and the advanced tab. Under performance options, click the adjust for best performance tab, and then scroll to the bottom and check mark the LAST 3 entries. XP will look the same with a lot less stress.
This gets rid of unnecesary detail in your XP display (sexy shadowing and highlights and stuff). It will look very much the same whilst releasing some RAM for important use
if they have a broadand connection, set the cache file to less then 50 megs, turn off system restore (unless they really use it) and get the properties of the recycle bin and set it to 3% to leave more space.
I did these things an his computer came back to life. No speedy gonzalez but it runs reliably.
Furthermore...
I used CCleaner (a piece of freeware recommended IIRC by Asgara). It does a general cleanout of old files but it has a registry cleaner too. The registary cleaner ("Issues" on the side bar) seems to work well enough and might find something wrong. You can run it and it will scan and give you a list of issues in the registry. It takes no action with them unless you decide to "fix issues".
I've heard the odd story that if you don't know what you are resolving by way of issue you might cause problems. I've run it on 3 or 4 computers ( by just pressing 'fix issues' and haven't had any problem with it. Depends on if your a risk taker or not
CCleaner Makes Your Computer Faster & More Secure | Official Website
Theres a download link on the home page - a little ways down the page
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iano
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Message 53 of 297 (351323)
09-22-2006 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Faith
09-22-2006 1:25 PM


Re: New Hard Drive
What's a "processor" as opposed to a hard drive?
I think the level of trouble-shooting will have to drop a notch or two guys and gals.
Why don't you just buy a new computer. They can't be that expensive stateside. The one you have sounds like a right dog and it also sounds like your not using it for mega-complex stuff (unlike crash who seems to have installed and industrial refrigeration unit to keep his supercharged processor (read brains) cool.
Spending money on an old car is a fools errand and if your not sure what you are doing you could pour money in an old dog of a computer. Even the most basic computer will likely be far better than what you have.

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iano
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Message 55 of 297 (351326)
09-22-2006 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Faith
09-22-2006 1:34 PM


Re: The best cheap deal
Just to round out my options, if I could get together $500 or $600 for a new computer, what could I get for that much? What would you all recommend?
Why don't you just buy a new computer.
Do you think someone is telling us something?

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iano
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Message 58 of 297 (351332)
09-22-2006 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Faith
09-22-2006 1:34 PM


Re: The best cheap deal
Faith
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I'm on dialup
Blessed are the poor in bandwidth for they shall inherity the earth. I take my hat off sis.
Yup, dialup is your problem. Your trying to get highway volumes of traffic down a country lane.

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iano
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Message 91 of 297 (351460)
09-22-2006 7:10 PM


Manna from heaven?
How about this one (the Dimension B110 on the extreme left -see link at bottom)?
Faith usage seems light enough and she doesn't sound like she's going to go deep in but just wants a computer to do what she needs it to do.
Taking what folk have said, this basic model can be upgraded to:
1024 Ram
basic speakers
include installation discs
DVD burner (instead of just CD burner)
...for $548. Which falls within budget
Spec in total in case I missed something
Components
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 325 (2.53 GHz, 533 FSB)
Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition with re-installation CD
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
80GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
17 inch E177FP Analog Flat Panel
Accessories
Dell A225 Speakers
Dell USB Keyboard and Dell 2-button Scroll Mouse
No Floppy Drive Included
Software
No productivity suite- Includes Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
No Security Subscription
Service
2Yr Ltd Warranty, 2Yr At-Home Service, and 2Yr HW Warranty Support
6 Months of America Online Membership Included
Also Includes
Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2
Integrated 2.0 Channel Audio
56K PCI Data Fax Modem
Mouse included with Keyboard purchase
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Award Winning Service & Support
Windows Vista™ Capable
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iano
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Message 92 of 297 (351480)
09-22-2006 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by iano
09-22-2006 7:10 PM


Re: Manna from heaven?
This one seems a good option too: main difference is that the processor is meant to compare in performance to the Penthium4. RAM stays at 512mb to keep within budget but is only $50 to upgrade to 1024mb which runs to the end of the budget but seems a smart thing to do now. The optical drive loses DVD write facility (CD write facility only)
$549 (or $600 with 1024 RAM)
Components:
AMD Athlon™ 64 3200+
Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition with re-installation CD
512MB Single Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz - 1DIMM
80GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
48X CD-RW/ DVD Combo Drive
17 inch E177FP Analog Flat Panel
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Integrated Graphics GPU
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Accessories:
Dell A225 Speakers
Dell USB Keyboard and Dell 2-button Scroll Mouse
No Floppy Drive Included
56K PCI Data Fax Modem
Software:
No productivity suite- Includes Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
No Security Subscription
Starter pack- Basic and trial products from Corel and Yahoo
Service
1Yr Ltd Warranty, 1Yr At-Home Service, and 1Yr HW Warranty Support
6 Months of America Online Membership Included
Also Includes
Mouse included in Wireless, Laser or Bluetooth Package
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Award Winning Service and Support
Why do they put Award Winning Service and Support last?

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iano
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Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 93 of 297 (351482)
09-22-2006 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by iano
09-22-2006 8:35 PM


Re: Manna from heaven?
Also Faith,
Girl 2 doors up works at Microsoft so I can get whatever you need that end cheap and send it across. I got MSOffice (in order to get Word) for about $40 IIRC. MSworks which comes with the above deals has a word processing package which is much like Word-lite. It also has spreadsheets (But not excel) It might suffice - I imagine its documents/spreadsheets and Word/Excel stuff are interchangeable. Could check it out with the neighbour

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iano
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Message 105 of 297 (351546)
09-23-2006 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Faith
09-22-2006 10:23 PM


Re: Manna from heaven?
I wasn't so much my intention that you figure out the details yourself but that the more gifted in this area could throw an eye over the suggestions (msg 91 and 92 top this page) and comment on suitablility. I'm sure there are better deals but I just put these up as they seem to meet your needs and the spec is open to be examined. If there are no objections then you would have a ready solution within budget should you decide to go down the new path. I think they have all the bits you need but I might be overlooking something - hence others opinion welcome
The main difference between the two is that the one has a Celeron processor and some more by way of peripheral stuff (1024 RAM and a DVD burner). The other has a Penthium-equivilent processor and only CD burner and 512 RAM. Both cost about $550.
You have to decide whether you want to burn DvDs. If you don't the spend elsewhere (maybe look at going for a 19" screen or more RAM or better speakers or whatever. The Dell site makes it easy to chop and change and they run a total current cost as you change things
I note they say the Celeron unit is MS Vista ready though how ready I cannot say. Although its not said of the second option, the Penthium-equivilent processor (or chip) would be MSVista ready I'm sure
For the rest:
Someone should comment on whether existing software CD's would load up - I imagine it would.
I'd go with Doc Jones and forget the zip. Transfer stuff over through it via a plug in memory like he says and leave it at that.
What about security? You sound like you have little and its only $50 a year or so for Norton or McAfee which both provide a suite of items to barrier you from the big bad world. Norton can be a bit glitchy - although I run it myself without much problem. Don't know about McAfee. There is stuff you can get for free but if its fit and forget you want with just a bill to pay every year then that is the way to go
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iano
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Message 109 of 297 (351566)
09-23-2006 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by crashfrog
09-23-2006 10:19 AM


Re: Manna from heaven?
Good advice Crash.
Which option of the two (msg 91 and 92) would you pick? And does it sound like good value for money? Is the Amd chip the equivilent to a Penthium4

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iano
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Message 111 of 297 (351572)
09-23-2006 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by crashfrog
09-23-2006 10:50 AM


Re: Manna from heaven?
I'm about to geek out so Faith, skip to the bottom if you want.
I saw your blog and trembled...
Good advice on choice. I know this stuff is about how ingredients mix and your suggesting one mix over the helps steer things. I'm in the mode of taking your word for it: single core? dual core? - frick!
(Apologies Faith for sticking the oar in but I reckon its better to get some potential pcs up there to work on. Perhaps now someone can recommend a better spec for the money - or perhaps a lower spec for less that will suffice for your needs. You might be able to add other stuff like a 19" screen or a second CD drive or more RAM or something. The Celeron which Crash recommends might be the minimum though.

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iano
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Message 113 of 297 (351605)
09-23-2006 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Taz
09-23-2006 1:40 PM


You betcha. But its good for picking up on ideas for me anyways. I'm itching to open my own computer to have a poke around
Do you want to comment on the deal in post 91/92. Perhaps chose one or other and why or maybe post a better one if you come across it.
Or do you prefer to keep Faith at arms length knowing she can't risk too much activity here in case the pc goes belly up?
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iano
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Message 127 of 297 (351665)
09-23-2006 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Taz
09-23-2006 7:44 PM


Re: Don't you wish you had a Mac?
Give me 2 seconds and I'll do the same

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iano
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Message 129 of 297 (351668)
09-23-2006 8:06 PM
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09-23-2006 8:02 PM


Re: Don't you wish you had a Mac?
Not really. I could do the same with a PC. It involves use of a phenomenon called 'the effect of impact on electronic componants'. Used (in more gentle fashion) on old style tvs to get them to work right

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