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Author Topic:   Your eternal destination: you decide.
iano
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Message 93 of 246 (360767)
11-02-2006 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by jar
11-02-2006 10:23 AM


Re: To be fair to Iano...
As for someone saying they know GOD exists, they are simply lying to themselves successfully, and that is very sad.
Could you howl a bit louder in your anguish. I can't quite hear you from here...

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iano
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Message 96 of 246 (360781)
11-02-2006 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Chiroptera
11-02-2006 11:32 AM


True. But that wasn't the question.

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iano
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Message 98 of 246 (360784)
11-02-2006 11:47 AM
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11-02-2006 11:40 AM


I said Allah cannot exist. The reason is that God does and he ain't Allah (and I only need to be convinced of that to be rendered unable to answer the question in the manner many desire)
How does an agnostic or an athiest arrive at does not/cannot exist

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iano
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Message 100 of 246 (360788)
11-02-2006 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Codegate
11-02-2006 11:49 AM


Re: This is scary stuff...
As soon as you close yourself to questioning your beliefs this is the realm you enter.
This is simple perpetual-journey-never-a-destination speak. As it happens, arriving at a destination means you can get off and check out the surroundings. There is plenty to be questioned. Just not the destination.
Hope that makes you sleep easier.

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iano
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Message 103 of 246 (360796)
11-02-2006 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Chiroptera
11-02-2006 11:57 AM


Not even Richard Dawkins goes so far as to exclude the possibility of Gods existance. It is saying something that you do appear to do so - especially on the basis of something like this.
All phenomena that I am aware of have explanations that do not involve the existence of a god.
And the phenomena you are not aware of? Either there are none or there are but you are not aware of them.
And the phenomena which you are aware of for which there is no explanation?
Cannot exist? Or pretty damn convinced he does not exist?
If the latter, then the OP is for you

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iano
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Message 104 of 246 (360803)
11-02-2006 12:24 PM
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11-02-2006 12:12 PM


The question you need to ask yourself is, "Is this the destination, or do I need to stay on the train?"
I stayed on until He booted me off. There wasn't much opportunity to question IIRC.

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iano
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Message 150 of 246 (360957)
11-02-2006 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Faith
11-02-2006 7:59 PM


Re: YEC = KFC
You just happened to be last sis.
What on earth has the genome to do with the topic?

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iano
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Message 170 of 246 (361178)
11-03-2006 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by jar
11-03-2006 4:29 PM


Re: Still no evidence of KNOW
And as I pointed out to you, that is simply not the case with the forum. It can be independently verified.
If your own verification is of no worth then what worth the verification of anothers?
Zero worth mulitplied by 10,000 is zero worth. God forbid we had to get another opinion before we could know anything.

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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 185 of 246 (361630)
11-04-2006 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by Legend
11-04-2006 5:42 PM


Re: so many choices
well, with Jesus' God I might stand a (slight) chance of going to heaven, as he did repeatedly say it's what you do that will gain you life.
Trouble is he also said what would gain you death. And if your honest with yourself you see that you do that too. Which would leave you in RC limbo at best.
Well not really. You can't do that which he said would gain you life. "Do unto others". You can't do it.
Edited by iano, : No reason given.
Edited by iano, : No reason given.

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