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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 25 of 246 (360486)
11-01-2006 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by iano
11-01-2006 10:40 AM


iano writes:
If you were to die a few minutes from now where do you think God would send you? And why do you think he would send you there.
Something that does not exist cannot send me to any places that do not exist

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 27 of 246 (360497)
11-01-2006 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by iano
11-01-2006 2:26 PM


iano writes:
This is true. Could he exist?
Have you ever read the poem 'The God-Maker, Man' by Don Marquis? It's very good.
To answer question , since all human gods are a creation of man, no god(s) exist.
Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : grammer

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 30 of 246 (360523)
11-01-2006 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by jar
11-01-2006 4:11 PM


quote:
well says i pete
bill s plays are highly
esteemed to this day
is that so says pete
poor mutt little he would
care what poor bill wanted
was to be a poet
i once was a vers libre bard
but i died and my soul went into the body of a cockroach
it has given me a new outlook on life
jar writes:
Ah. Someone else who studies Archyology
Who could not love the writtings of a cockroach with that humor.

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 31 of 246 (360525)
11-01-2006 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by iano
11-01-2006 4:24 PM


iano writes:
What about non-human God.
You are using a human concepts, would you like to bring non-human concepts to be examined.
iano writes:
alacrity fitzhugh writes:
Have you ever read the poem 'The God-Maker, Man' by Don Marquis? It's very good.
No. I never got poetry I'm afraid. I got other things. Can I suppose it asserts in beautiful fashion that which you do above?
First, my favorite form of literature is not poetry, even though I do love a good poem, look at my alias that should tell you what form I like the most; so it seems i also have other things. Second, suppose what you want.

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 38 of 246 (360533)
11-01-2006 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by CK
11-01-2006 5:02 PM


Re: To be fair or not to be to Iano..
ck writes:
the premise of the thread is IF the christian god as described in the bible exists. Therefore any question of "well he doesn't exist" isn't really within the scoop of the question.
No, the premise is
iano in his opening post writes:
Even the most rabid athiest will accept that God of the Bible can well exist.
Will, not if. If he had used 'even the most rabid atheist can accept the god of the bible could exist, that would be different now.
iano again from his opening post writes:
They would also accept that Heaven and Hell of the Bible can exist (for simplicities sake: Heaven is bliss, Hell ain't)
Here he uses can. So rabid atheist will accept god of the bible, then they can accept the concept of heaven and hell.I do not accept the concept of any god Also, what is his and your definition of a rabid atheist?

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 44 of 246 (360546)
11-01-2006 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by iano
11-01-2006 5:28 PM


Re: To be fair or not to be to Iano..
Even the most rabid athiest will accept that God of the Bible can well exist.
Will, not if
Not will, well
Well is the second word from the end of the sentence. Ck posted
the premise of the thread is IF the christian god as described in the bible exists.
bold mine
Which i answered that you, iano, used will as the 6 word of the sentence, and if you had used can that would be different I never posted about well. If you misunderstood, thats okay.
Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.
Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 179 of 246 (361491)
11-04-2006 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Archer Opteryx
11-04-2006 12:51 PM


Re: beyond . . . doubt
Archer Opterix writes:
I don't doubt it. Many people in my part of the world have the same experiences with Guan Yin, the Compassionate One.
Do they Acknowledge Jesus as a prophet? Do they even care if he lived or died?
Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : ?

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 181 of 246 (361563)
11-04-2006 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Archer Opteryx
11-04-2006 2:54 PM


Re: beyond . . . doubt
archer opterix writes:
No and maybe not, but they're respectful
Sorry, did not mean to imply any form of disrespect, just curious.
archer opterix writes:
Taiwanese Buddhists often have Christian friends.
Most of my friends and family are christian, the school my children go to is christian.
archer opterix writes:
Catholics run a number of schools and missions here (most of the nuns seem to be Filipino) and Chiang Kai-Shek was a Methodist. They respect Jesus as they respect anyone's deity. Quan Yin devotees would have no problem with a person praying to both Guan Yin and Jesus if they felt the need.
This is why I asked. Know as much about Buddhism as I know about christianity. Figured that if I asked you the answer would be to the point without any preaching.
archer opterix writes:
A number of deities, bodhissatvas, and revered figures are prayed to here. One never rejects a figure someone else worships. One never knows, after all, what wisdom may lie in those mysteries. It's wise to be respectful. At the same time, no one expects to keep track of every figure a person might possibly pray to.
More info, knew asking you I would get a great answer. Thank you.
archer opterix writes:
I hope this answers your question.
Yes it did, again thanks for the link and answer.
archer opterix writes:
It's certainly safe to say the average Guan Yin devotee tends to be more knowledgable of, and accepting of, Jesus than the average Christian tends to be of Guan Yin.
Its safe to say that, it is also safe to say most christians and Guan Yin devotee have never heard of Ye ho waah, google tsalagi.

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 184 of 246 (361626)
11-04-2006 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by jar
11-04-2006 6:51 PM


Re: beyond . . . doubt
jar writes:
Really? They must not have been to New Echota either then?
If they have never been to Georgia, I would guess not.

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Posts: 194
Joined: 02-10-2004


Message 189 of 246 (361745)
11-05-2006 1:14 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by Archer Opteryx
11-05-2006 12:45 AM


Re: beyond . . . doubt
Thank you. We only have so much time to live, to limit your knowledge to just a very narrow area is sad. This could be deemed off topic, so again thank you, you have given me an area of learning that I will enjoy

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 195 of 246 (361814)
11-05-2006 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 190 by tsig
11-05-2006 1:23 AM


Re: beyond . . . doubt
ts writes:
If you believe in god then you should join every religion on earth.
Where did I ever say I believed in god/s ?

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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alacrity fitzhugh
Member (Idle past 4318 days)
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Message 198 of 246 (361880)
11-05-2006 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by Archer Opteryx
11-05-2006 1:06 PM


Re: beyond . . . doubt
archer opterix writes:
Thanks, AF, for a lovely picture of a lovely lady.
You are welcome, just that when I googling Guan Yin it came up with over 1.5 million links that was in the one that mention Taiwan. Figured I post it. Wanted to ask after I saw it if this is where David Mack got the idea for his character Kabuki ( Keyboard was and is still acting up, placing 7 intermittently while typing, need new batteries.)? I saw jar posted some excellent info, like he aways does.
archer opterix writes:
I understood ts to be speaking generally--a bit of wisdom in harmony with your comment in Message 189 about not limiting oneself.
If that is what ts meant, then I apologize. qs

Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.

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