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Author Topic:   Is absence of evidence evidenc o' absence???? Crashfrog, Percy, Ludo
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Message 6 of 8 (409607)
07-10-2007 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by LudoRephaim
07-09-2007 10:29 AM


Topic Revision?
I think that I have tracked down a source attributed to Crashfrog here where he states:
Crashfrog writes:
There's an astounding lack of evidence for Bigfoot, and absence of evidence is evidence of absence. I wouldn't say that I'm particularly "anti-Bigfoot", but I'm anti-nonsense, and this pretty much seems like nonsense.
In message 152 Percy states that:
Percy writes:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and those arguing scientifically have to remember this rule. What can be done scientifically is to point out the paucity of evidence, and to put it in context by listing all the other speculated phenomena which have comparable amounts of evidence, e.g., UFO's, alien abductions, ghosts, ESP, pyramid power, magnetic bracelets, homeopathy, therapeutic touch, assisted communication, and so forth.
Crashfrog responds in Message #158 by saying:
Crashfrog writes:
But that is no rule - absence of evidence is evidence of absence, that's well-known. Every reasonable person considers absence of evidence to be evidence of absence. How else would you detect absence except by an absence of evidence?
"Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" is the counter-reasonable nonsense people say when they're trying to defend the existence of something they don't have any evidence for, and it's surprising to see someone as intelligent as yourself fall for it. It's a clearly transparent dodge.
What is your basic philosophy in a nutshell, Ludo? Would this debate be a Faith/Belief issue or would it fall under the disciplines of scientific inquiry?
Edited by AdminPhat, : clarification

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Message 8 of 8 (409617)
07-10-2007 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by LudoRephaim
07-10-2007 2:14 PM


Does anyone want a debate?
Ludo has stated his position and I now open the topic up for anyone who wishes to debate Ludo on this particular subject.
Any takers?

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