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Author Topic:   anti-perspirants, the scourge of the earth.
macaroniandcheese 
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Message 1 of 26 (440517)
12-13-2007 2:35 PM


i've previously heard lots of claims about the diseases caused by the chemicals in deodorants. just today i've heard claims for both alzheimers (which i've never heard before) and breast cancer (which i have).
the alzheimers was a blanket claim, but there's this link about breast cancer.
anti-perspirant chemical found in breast tumors
so. lets have some propositions for chemical hysteria, and some good, old-fashioned debunking.
is it science, i guess.
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Message 2 of 26 (440723)
12-14-2007 10:05 AM
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12-13-2007 2:35 PM


anybody?

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Message 5 of 26 (440741)
12-14-2007 10:51 AM
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12-14-2007 10:49 AM


can you find any articles on it?

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Message 8 of 26 (440750)
12-14-2007 11:51 AM
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12-14-2007 11:38 AM


yes. sexual side affects. reduced opportunity.

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Message 10 of 26 (440761)
12-14-2007 12:58 PM
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12-14-2007 12:57 PM


*winks*
maybe it's not the armpits.

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Message 12 of 26 (440764)
12-14-2007 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Hyroglyphx
12-14-2007 1:18 PM


Re: Anti-perspirants/alzheimers connection
Sure, we could surmise that it is purely a biological disorder that is passed down from generation to generation, but then, why is the frequency increasing?
i'm willing to bet that once again it's not cases that are increasing, but diagnosis. old people have always gone out of their minds.

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Message 15 of 26 (440771)
12-14-2007 1:43 PM
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12-14-2007 1:26 PM


Re: Anti-perspirants/alzheimers connection
no, not "mis-diagnosis" but failure to diagnose the specific disease, and instead just assuming the old person is... well, old and senile.
it's like this. a century ago, we had zero 0 gooseegg cases of asperger's syndrome. why? it was only specified in 1944. does that mean that before 1944 no one had it? no. it hasn't been comonly used as a diagnosis until recently, and before, kids were just "difficult" or "slow" or "anti-social" since AS kids tend to be much more "normal" than kids with "normal" autism. does this necessarily mean there are really more children who fall into that category, or that we're just getting better at knowing which children have it and which are just "ornery"?
you have to be able to demonstrate that a disease can be acquired or developed. you can't just say "it's happening more now, so it must be exposure to new things". maybe it's just that people with alzheimers used to have problems raising children and didn't have any, but now they're reproducing at the same rates as everyone else and so the numbers are rising. still purely genetic.
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Message 16 of 26 (440773)
12-14-2007 1:45 PM
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12-14-2007 1:37 PM


because they want it to. there's no proof. they just really hope really strongly, just like autism parents. because then they can blame something.

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Message 18 of 26 (440817)
12-14-2007 5:33 PM
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12-14-2007 4:58 PM


Re: Anti-perspirants/alzheimers connection
most people, probably. but then there's we who need prescription strength stuff. no deodorant alone ever worked for me. and that's not even speaking of the sweating, just the odor.

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Message 20 of 26 (440826)
12-14-2007 6:25 PM
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12-14-2007 6:13 PM


Re: Anti-perspirants/alzheimers connection
i give myself headaches if i don't use anything. it's awful.

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Message 22 of 26 (440828)
12-14-2007 6:34 PM
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12-14-2007 6:31 PM


Re: Anti-perspirants/alzheimers connection
i'd go for the alzheimers. at least then i won't know i'm losing my mind.

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Message 25 of 26 (440835)
12-14-2007 7:00 PM
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12-14-2007 6:40 PM


my grandfather is the same way. it's a complete pain.

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Message 26 of 26 (440836)
12-14-2007 7:01 PM
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12-14-2007 6:46 PM


Re: to be helpful
haha, it's okay. i've actually tried every single thing on the shelf at most places and a few natural things, including the crystal. no dice. i'm currently using secret clinical and i'm pleased. it's amazing. first time ever in my life.

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