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kakip Junior Member (Idle past 5969 days) Posts: 3 Joined: |
If humans were said to be.. or be related to gorillas.. or chimpanzees or of those african apes, why is there still such things as gorillas and other apes.. wouldnt there be all humans if the apes have evolved into these humans.. how are these apes still maintain all the perfect DNA as to what exactly they are as apes, when apes have evolved into humans.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
I'm promoting this.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
It has been awhile since anyone asked this.
This question is used as an example of the most utterly, obviously stupid questions that creationists ask. If one had the very tiniest amount of a clue about what the evolutionary model was about and one thought for just a small moment it would be obvious that this is very, very dumb. I'm sure you have been given this question by some preacher or another member of the CCOI-tm by Jar ( Christian Cult of Ignorance) as a supposed killer of Darwinism. If so you should reject such as individual or organization of a source for any of your ideas. They are either deliberately lying or utterly and willful ignorant. The answer is derivable from:If your parents have children how come they are still around and/or if you exist do your cousins have to die? Try it and see. If you can't get it from that clue then you are too abysmally dumb to be able to understand anything discussed here and you might as well leave.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Hi there.
If humans were said to be.. or be related to gorillas.. or chimpanzees or of those african apes, why is there still such things as gorillas and other apes.. wouldnt there be all humans if the apes have evolved into these humans.. Ah, it's the ol' "why are there still monkeys?" thing again. If Iceland was colonized by Scandinavians, why are there still Scandinavians?
how are these apes still maintain all the perfect DNA as to what exactly they are as apes, when apes have evolved into humans. The apes we have now are not, in fact, the apes you used to get in the good old days, they too have evolved since the time of our common ancestor.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
We are apes.
Whoever told you that stuff is simply a liar, likely another "Liar for Jesus." All us Apes evolved from something that was not yet Ape, so the Chimp and the Gorilla, the Human and the Bonobo, Jesus and the Orangutan are all equally evolved, equally Ape. Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
We are apes. Whoever told you that stuff is simply a liar, likely another "Liar for Jesus." All us Apes evolved from something that was not yet Ape I wish people wouldn't do that. Look, if apes are a clade, then our common ancestors with chimps was an ape. If, on the other hand, we're going to allow the term "apes" to be anacladic, then in common parlance we are not apes, and our common ancestor with chimps would so be clasified. 'Cos they look like, y'know, apes. Your definition of apes, in which we are, but our ancestors aren't, corresponds to no concept I've ever heard of, and combines the worst features of both definitions. Be nice. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, I would say that the common ancestor somewhere back there was a primate, but today's apes, humans, chimps, gorillas, bonobos and Jesus are something different. Would it make you feel better if I said "Not a modern ape?"
Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
jar writes: Would it make you feel better if I said "Not a modern ape?" Yeah, I think that would be cleaer, since kakip seems to have missed a very important point point about natural history and evolution.Just to reiterate, kakip, no-one is trying to say that humans are descended from gorillas, chimps, bonobos or any other modern ape. Humans and modern apes share a common ancestor. This ancestor was very similar to modern apes, whatever you want to call it, but not the same as any living species. Hope this helps, kakip. Mutate and Survive
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Taz Member (Idle past 3321 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Wow... and this OP made it through the rigorous Admin review process?
Anyway, here is a question for you to ponder about. If god made human from dirt, how come there are still dirt around? Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
It is rare, it seems, for an entire species to evolve into another species. Usually it is a small population of the species, isolated from the rest somehow, that evolves. So you can have new species arise while the old species remain.
"The guilty one is not he who commits the sin, but the one who causes the darkness." Clearly, he had his own strange way of judging things. I suspect that he acquired it from the Gospels. -- Victor Hugo
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 8.3 |
So, 6 million years ago there's a bunch of apes hanging around in a tree, some of these apes thought it'd be a nifty idea to start hanging around on all this big shiny savanna that opened up and was filled with Lions and Tigers along with the odd Mushroom and Badger and so they hoped down from the trees and learnt to walk on two legs, shave and do complicated long division sums while the rest of them sloped around and became chimps.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
So, 6 million years ago there's a bunch of apes hanging around in a tree, some of these apes thought it'd be a nifty idea to start hanging around on all this big shiny savanna that opened up and was filled with Lions and Tigers along with the odd Mushroom and Badger and so they hoped down from the trees and learnt to walk on two legs, shave and do complicated long division sums while the rest of them sloped around and became chimps. Close, but no cigar.
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Equinox Member (Idle past 5171 days) Posts: 329 From: Michigan Joined: |
Dr. A wrote:
If Iceland was colonized by Scandinavians, why are there still Scandinavians? Yes, and another example that may be closer to home for many creationists would be: "If the people in Boston are descended from the British, how come there are still British people over in Britan?" Mr. Jack- Not bad. You got the gist of the discussion, that only some of parent species must evolve (the dirt example is useful too). Of course, your example is written to make fun of the idea as you know - hence your exaggeration of the dangers and lack of mention of the benefits. You also mention things as if early humans planned them: "thought", "learned" etc, which is Lamarckian. But hey, I like having fun with ideas too, so I enjoyed your post. Have a fun day everyone- -Equinox
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