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InGodITrust
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Message 1 of 27 (507181)
05-02-2009 3:38 PM


Hi Folks, I'm new to the forum and am interested in learning about evolution. I am a Christian, and eventually want to find arguments that disprove evolution, but the first step is to learn a bit about the theory.
I bought a used copy of "the Origin of Species", and am stating there. I also bought a used copy of Sean Carroll "the Making of the Fittest", which is up-to-date, and I've read good reviews on it.
What else would you consider a must for someone learning evolution? Or, am I wasting time with the books I have?
Also, which are the best works against evolution?
Thanks for any help
Edited by InGodITrust, : spelling

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InGodITrust
Member (Idle past 1699 days)
Posts: 53
From: Reno, Nevada, USA
Joined: 05-02-2009


Message 8 of 27 (507310)
05-03-2009 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Granny Magda
05-03-2009 4:40 AM


Thanks For The Suggestions
I appreciate your help, everyone. I don't have a ton of time for reading, and I read rather slowly anyway, but I'll probably go with at least one of the titles you've recommended for evolution. (The Origin of Species is very slow going for me, and will probably take me at least a month to finish).
I'm suprised there aren't more books that cast doubt on the theory. I don't care if they are labeled Intelligent Design, or Creationism, or whatever. In fact better would be a books by mainstream scientists that have trouble with evolution. I'm getting the idea that these don't exist, and there really aren't any arguments against evolution that the scientific community finds problematic.
In the end, if I don't find anything to disprove evolution, I will still have faith in the Lord. I trust science a lot of the time, in most cases. But I always trust in God.

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InGodITrust
Member (Idle past 1699 days)
Posts: 53
From: Reno, Nevada, USA
Joined: 05-02-2009


Message 15 of 27 (507398)
05-04-2009 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by DevilsAdvocate
05-04-2009 4:11 PM


Hey Devil's Advocate and Percy
DA, you're concerned about Creationism being taught in schools in place of science. Percy, you asked me in another thread if I questioned whether evolution had sufficient concensus among scientists to be taught in schools. I didn't reply in that thread because I had trouble using the software here on the forum; I couldn't figure out how to attacth a quote to my reply.
Anyway, I'm not very familiar with Creationism, but if it is true that it is not true science, but religion disguised as science, then I don't want it taught in schools either. Not only would children miss out on learning true science, but it would also violate our principle of separation of church and state. I do think, though, that before any science that conflicts with major religions is taught, the teachers should explain the conflict, and also define a scientific theory. And quiz the kids on the definition of a scientific theory. I think some teachers may just present evolution and the big bang as flat-out, absolute truths.

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InGodITrust
Member (Idle past 1699 days)
Posts: 53
From: Reno, Nevada, USA
Joined: 05-02-2009


Message 22 of 27 (507432)
05-05-2009 4:09 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by dwise1
05-04-2009 6:02 PM


Re: Hey Devil's Advocate and Percy
Here is how I insert a quote in my reply:
Thanks dwise1, for those instructions.
And thanks everyone for all the additional book suggestions.
I guess I have to say I'm disappointed to be learning here that there are no arguments against evolution that scientists find credible, so no books to explain any. For some reason I had been under the impression that a percentage of the scientific community disputed evolution. Guess I may check out one of the creationist books, or just do some reading about it on the web, and here on this forum.
I noticed the administrator here on the board does a good job of keeping threads on topic, and I went off topic a little in this thread with the school stuff, so I'll quit with that.
Edited by InGodITrust, : added more

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