Mythology with real places & people

Im coming to this shortly.stay tuned.

My apologies for taking so long.So we are comparing the so called 'mythical' bible, with the Iliad and Odyssey as per OP.The Ilias or Odysse are not historical documents nor were they recorded as such.
On the other hand the OT was used, not only in worship, but to set legal parameters and to judge and to teach. the old testament was more then just a religious document, it was a part of the Isrealites everyday life. They were governed by its principles and laws in everything they did. The Law, which included the Genesis creation account, was read publicly to all men, women, and children. It was not considered a myth but real history.Also there is so much archeological evidence to back up the bibles accuracy in its descriptions of the land, of the nations and religions around them, in their battles and in their everyday practices...its just wrong to assume the bible is myth.To compare the Bible with the Iliad and Odysse is ludicrous.

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Brian wrote: How many places visited during the Exodus have been shown to be real?

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Name a real person from any of the first five books of the Old Testament, and provide evidence that they were real.

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Moses. Many ancient writers such as Hecataeus of Abdera, the Egyptian historian Manetho, Lysimachus of Alexandria, Eupolemus, Tacitus, and Juvenal all attribute the Pentateuch to Moses.
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On the temple walls at Karnak in Egypt is the record of Pharaoh Shishak's invasion of Judah during the reign of Solomon’s son Rehoboam.
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The Moabite Stone mentions King Meshas version of his revolt against Israel as found in 2Kings 3:4-27.
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The names of Hezekiah, Manasseh, Omri, Ahab, Pekah, Menahem and Hoshea appear on cuneiform records of Assyrian rulers
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One of King Sargons inscriptions tells of his conquore of Samaria. It reads: "I besieged and conquered Samaria, led away as booty 27,290 inhabitants of it." Compare the account in 2Kings 17:6 "In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king of Assyria captured Samaria and then led Israel into exile"
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The bible speaks of King Sennacherib. When his palace was unearthed
written descriptions were found that read "As to Hezekiah, the Jew, he did not submit to my yoke, I laid siege to 46 of his strong cities ...Himself I made a prisoner in Jerusalem, his royal residence, like a bird in a cage...I reduced his country, but I still increased the tribute and the katr-presents (due) to me (as his) overlord."
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300 cuneiform tablets were uncovered in Babylon at the site known as the Ishtar Gate which relate to King Nebuchadnezzar's reign. Among them were lists of the names of workers and captives living in Babylon who had been taken captive from Jerusalem. The name of Jehoiachin, 'the king of the land of Judah' is mentioned by name along with 5 of his sons.
2King 24:8"Eighteen years old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign, and for three months he reigned in Jerusalem....10During that time the servants of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon came up to Jerusalem, so that the city came under siege..."
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The city where the Patriach Abraham was said to be from Ur has proved to be a real city located on the Euphrates near the Persian Gulf. Excavations there by Sir Leonard Woolley indicate that it was at the height of its power and prestige in the 1900 BCE...the same time that Abraham lived.
______________________the palace of King Sargon 11 was unearthed in a town ear Khorsabad, in 1843. This king was unknown before they found the temple, he had only been mentioned in the bible at Isaiah chapter 20.
__________________the names of Peleg, Serug, Nahor, Terah, and Haran are the names of the relatives of Abraham spoken of at Ge 11:17-32.
These names are also found at the ancient royal city of Mari (Tell Hariri)in Syria,which was excavated from 1933 on. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

No, I do not need to try againIt matters not to me that people refuse to accept the evidence for the people and places mentioned in the bibleArcheology has proven the bibles historical accuracy time and time again.
If people still want to claim that it is nothing more then myths and legends, then it shows more then just ignorance...it shows a deep bias which no amount of evidence will ever satisfy. Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

thats why i asked Stile for a definition of faithto me, faith is not blind belief as many claim. Faith is an expectation of hope. This means that to have a hope, there must be a basis for that hope. For a christian, our hope rests on God. What we learn from the bible becomes the foundation and with accurate knowledge the end result is faith. So faith is based on knowledge...its not blind nor does it come before knowledge.Its not unreasonable for a christian to require some evidence of the bibles inspiration and so many do undertake a deeper study and do look at secular records for further proof...only after this is faith produced.My list of archeological evidence (written off by Brian) is a form of evidence that christians use to determine the bibles accuracy and historicity. And for this reason they can trust the bible and in turn use it to develop a faith in God...they begin to understand the type of God he is and what his purpose and plans are and they put their trust and hope in him.Edited by Peg, : No reason given.Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

its a good question because for some things, there is no evidence...eg Noahs Ark.Its never been found, so we cant see it and say 'there it is so it is definitely true'. Yet I believe it 100%.

it is bias if the evidence is thrown in the binThere is nothing wrong with wanting to see evidence, i wanted to see it myself! The problem is that even when there is evidence, it is cast aside and rejected.

the link below is a picture of the wall.its a large wall with hieroglyphics and pictures that depictes the Egyptian god Amon bringing to Pharaoh Shishak 156 manacled Palestinian prisoners, who are attached by cords to his left hand. Each prisoner represents a city or village, the name of which is shown in hieroglyphics. Among those that can still be read and identified are Rabbith (Josh. 19:20) Taanach, Beth-shean, and Megiddo (Josh 17:11) Shunem (Josh. 19:18) Rehob (Josh 19:28) Hapharaim (Josh 19:19) Gibeon (Josh 18:25) Beth-horon (Josh 21:22) Aijalon (Josh 21:24); Socoh (Josh 15:35) and Arad (Josh 12:14). SourceEdited by AdminModulous, : shortened long link

what it proves is that the bible is based on fact and not fiction. This gives the books of the bible a certain degree of authority because their truthfulness is seen in archeology.Now, i dont believe that life can arise by chance, or the universe came into existence by a chance explosion, so for me, there must be a creator, and the bible claims to represent such a creator. It was worth investigating and I havnt been disappointed. And just because there are some things that the bible does not explain, it does not make everything else it say null and void. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix quote box.

this is trueso what makes the Iliad less believable?I would say its the fact that the story revolves around demi gods and the earthly children of such god who have divine powers with which they can perform amazing supernatural feats.On the other hand, no bible characters claim to have any special powers, or be born from any gods. The history recorded in it is completely reliable. That can be seen in its absolute honesty. Its a book of complete integrity and those who wrote it were not writing for any glory or fame. They had no ulterior motives and were not being paid to write it. They did not exaggerate anything, they wrote honestly and openly. The fact that they wrote about the mistakes of even their greatest kings shows that the writings were truthful. I completely trust it.

well we were talking about the old testament, but sure, Jesus did say he was the son of God.

hang on a tick, i have to intercept this lolIf i told you that I am Mrs Smiths daughter... would you assume that I am Mrs Smith?I just want to know how if one calls himself a 'son' it can be interpreted to mean that he is the 'father' ???If Jesus was God, then he would not rely on anyone for life and yet Jesus said that his life was from God at John 52:57Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father..."Edited by Peg, : No reason given.

in the case of Samson, his powers were given to him by God...he wasnt born from God and he never claimed to be a god.in fact, when his appointment was broken, he lost all his powers which shows that his powers were from God and not from himself.Same for Moses. He was a regular guy who was given an assignment and powers to assist him.

a lot of miraculous events occurred though, and miracles dont just happen and no man can perform the miracles mentioned without some supernatural interventionso if the events happened as they are recorded, then the only conclusion i can draw is that the God who acted in the Isrealites behalf must have been a real God and therefore worthy of my attention.

I disagree.The bible account of the city of Jericho and its miraculous destruction by the Isrealites is one such example of where evidence has been found by archeology.
The city was excavated in the 1930's and they found that the double walls surrounding the city had fallen down the slope as if toppled by an earthquake or some other unseen force. As the bible said, houses were built on rafters that bridged the tops of the two walls. they found evidence of intense fire that they said was out of the ordinary because the layer of ashes was unusually thick. The city had not been looted, and just as the bible says, it wasnt rebuilt until hundreds of years later.