Extraterrestrial life and God.

IF.....proof of ET comes to light, the creationist/christian would have to accept that as part of God's plan of life or design of His cosmos. I don't think there's really anyway a Christian could fit it into the Bible though which is why I just don't think we'll ever find such ET.

Apothecus,You are right, that was a non sequitur but I don't really know how else to put it.I don't think we are ever going to find intelligent alien life forms. It won't shock me in the least if we do find other life out there though in some form but not intelligent.Either way, this is solely a hypothetical question at this point so it's hard to say how anybody would react if a saucer started hovering over the White House one morning.

So I've thought about this for the last day and I have to say that yes, if alien life forms (especially of the intelligent kind or at least animal kind) were discovered then yes, yes, it would present some sort of problem for a Christian. I still feel that the discovery of bacteria or small cellular life in water on a distant planet wouldn't shake my belief because I don't believe those things evolve anyway, at least not into a completely different entity.In a more structured answer, I don't believe there are alien forms out there because Genesis doesn't tell us there are. In the creation events of Genesis 1-3, there are no indications that God created intelligent alien life forms at any point.Good conversation anyway....and I loved the X-files, never missed an episode.

Well, I knew someone would bring that up. There's allot not mentioned, a ton in fact, in the book of Genesis that science has discovered about life around us and the structures of cells, protein, ect. But the discovery of those, imo, hasn't disproved a creator either. There has been nothing discovered about the human body that disproves a creator. The discovery of alien life forms, again imo, is so significant that I feel it would have been mentioned.IF, we have been evolving for billions of years, I'd like to think that at some point, either an intelligent life form, or a MORE intelligent life form would have made themselves known at this point, but they haven't...in fact, we've thus far discovered not even a hint of life out there. That's not to say there isn't but until proven, I'll keep my position. Supposedly it's been billions of years in the making, it may be another billion before we see an alien life form, in which case I'll be a billion years removed from the equation and probably won't care. At that point, I'll know if I were right or wrong on all my positions and the only one who will care will be............me.

I understand your point on this...but the Bible is not a science book. The Bible was not intended to explain how the human eye works, or how to design a microscope, thus the length of time it took for science to make this happen. It's my opinion that the "creation" of another race of people (if that's the right word) is fairly significant. Significant enough that you then have to ask: Did Christ die for them too? Do they have their own Bible? How many races are there? Did Christ die multiple times on each of their planets? So yes, it's significant! And this one reason that I don't believe in evolution. I know theistic evolutions can explain this but Big Bang theorists would have a harder time. The randomness of life only forming here, only here! No where else. Just a total random kabang and life on earth but nowhere else. Our planet, set randomly in place by accident in a literal perfect position in ALL of outer space. Amazing isn't it? The fact is, as far as we know know, there's NO life in the universe, let alone sprawling. Now, your last point there i can agree with. None of this doesn't mean that there isn't life way way out there somewhere. My position is that there is no et life. My position is no different then one who believes they exist....neither of us can prove the other right or wrong. Again, as I've stated before it would do nothing to my faith if something were found out there such as plankton even.

I felt I addressed this in my post. I understand that theistic evolutionist has an answer to this and that's why I clarified that. I was referring in evolution rant about those who just claim a "random" beginning of life, whether from a Big Bang or a spark of energy into a puddle of soup. I know your position is somewhat of an ID/evolution so I know how you can fit the theory into a theistic evolution concept but that's not what I was referring to. Sorry if I wasn't clear but I thought I was. I personally feel these questions are relevant. God made man in his image. Nothing else was made in his image. So, if there is ET life out there, these questions would be very much relevant to a Christian. That is one reason why I don't believe in evolution, not the ONLY reason. And again, I wasn't referring to any belief in theistic evolution.As far as your last long paragraph goes, I feel I addressed those also.
Point 1 - I was not referring to theistic evolution. Or ID.
Point 2 - I clarified at the end that, yes, there could be life out there but we had not discovered ANY form of life thus far. BUT, I did state it doesn't mean there isn't life out there.
Point 3 - IF we got here through the Big Bang, without ID or creator, again, that's what I was referring to...then it was the perfect one in a billion (random number and no pun intended) shot that it occurred. Maybe there's another "perfect" planet out there somewhere with the exact location in reference to a star for heat and energy, but we haven't found it yet.I think you misunderstood what I was saying in most of my post. I was referring to the random big bang evolutionist who believes this just all "happened", without any outside designer......

Terribly sorry for lumping you in the ID category. I guess I was confused as to your position. My bad. And it's only assault on a police officer if I identify myself as one out of uniform before you slug away, otherwise you'd get away with simple assault.....ha!Yes, another good thread would be reasons why I don't believe in evolution, as this one wandered off into (my apologies), but at this point, I'm terribly under prepared and equally overwhelmed thus far on this board, as you can tell...lol....so I'll save my thread starting days for a later date.As far as the ET debate that's been going, I'm just going to have to say we agree to disagree on certain points. My position was swayed slightly in this discussion that I do agree that if alien life forms (intelligent or animal) were found, it would create a biblical problem for the Christian.Take care