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Author Topic:   How to call the infallible to account.... (re: The Pope)
Artemis Entreri 
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Message 30 of 43 (576247)
08-23-2010 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Bikerman
08-14-2010 11:16 PM


a) How can a church headed by a suspected criminal claim any moral authority?
just because some haters suspect you of something deosn't mean you cant have moral authority.
b) Can the Pope be prosecuted under provisions of the UN court - originally brought in to deal with Milosvitch? The principle of 'universal juristiction' is being openly suggested. Is this practical?
no he cannot.
c) Is it not time that the whole 'Vatican' show was brought to an end? The ridiculous charade of a square in the middle of Italy's capital, measuring just over 100 acres, being legally recognised as a state unto itself, is surely becomming not just anachronistic but actually risible. If heads of state are prepared to play these silly games of makebelieve then how do they expect their citizens to take them seriously?
its kind of how i feel about the king/queen of england.
once baptised a catholic then a catholic you remain.
I think you are confusing sacrements here, the one you speak of is called, appropriately enough, Confirmation.
buzsaw writes:
the secularist constituency repettively blames Christianity for the non-Christian, non-NT Biblical RCC attrocities in arguing that Christianity is violent and evil. What the folks here either deliberately or ingnorantly blame on Christianity is contrary to what Jesus and his apostles taught in the NT.
roflmfao...wow...i hope this is a joke, i can't believe there are people out there like this.
do you read (and believe) Chick tracks?
oh you mean like how the rapture is in the bible? give me a break!!!
It also implicates ignorance on your part as to how The RCC and Islam, both evil, oppressive and violent when they wield power, have kept one another at bay over the centuries; most of the religious wars being between these two political-religious power players. The both strive toward integration of church and state, the RCC, essentially ruling Europe by proxy, during the Dark Age centuries.
lol who is this guy?
Most of the religious wars are between Catholics and Muslims? Where the hell did you go to school? Jack Chick University? Maybe a couple crusades in the 12th and 13th century, but that is about it. the spanish reconquista was more about control of Espana than islam v. christianity. I would highly suspect most religious wars that took place were Christian vs. Christian rather than Islam vs. Catholics. I have no clue where you learned your history, but it is way off.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 32 of 43 (576799)
08-25-2010 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Bikerman
08-23-2010 11:10 PM


quote:
Since no trial is available then one cannot accurately say he is legally guilty, but then he could never be so, so we reduce to tautology.
Where I come from you are innocent until proven guilty, in court. Besides if he asked for forgiveness I would forgive him.
quote:
It isn't itself a membership requirement.
I agree, but once you are confirmed the worst you can ever be (outside of excommunication), is a bad catholic. Since infants are often baptised in the RCC tradition, Confirmation, is really just the adult baptism where you, yourself agree, instead of someone else agreeing for you. If you have not recieved the Sacrement of Confirmation, then I don't think you have anything to worry about.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 35 of 43 (576953)
08-26-2010 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Bikerman
08-26-2010 1:17 PM


heresy
quote:
You are not correct, and in fact your view is heretical.
where is the heresy?
Edited by Artemis Entreri, : i spel bad

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 38 of 43 (577128)
08-27-2010 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Theodoric
08-27-2010 9:19 AM


Re: heresy
wow are you still trying to troll?
you are pathetic at it, and should give up.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 41 of 43 (577351)
08-28-2010 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Theodoric
08-27-2010 10:16 AM


Re: heresy
and what have you actually posted to add to this?
oh yeah nothing (as usual), just your common attempts to troll me. I will not feed you so you should shut the fuck up unless you have something add, I was talking to bikerman here, and your simple mind had to jump in with ridicule. everything you just said to me you should say to the man in the mirror 1st.
you may be the worst regular poster on here.
Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 43 of 43 (577404)
08-28-2010 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Theodoric
08-28-2010 2:46 PM


Re: heresy
because I am willing to call you on the crap you post?
nah, because you are just a taking head, a hack. you dont ever contribute unless it is to call people names, most of the time (like here in this thread) you just repeat something that a more intelligent poster already stated.
if this site had an ignore button i would never read any thought you had ever. but unfourtunately there is no ignore button on this message board site, so i have to read things from theodoric and buzzsaw (two peas in pod).

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