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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
You're not going to get much more in this thread other than:
'God said so; and so it was'. Anything else is contraindicated by the Bible. Or you're going to get a bunch of replies playing devil's advocate.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Well, good luck with that, but if you get replies such as:
Chuck writes: (again im just amusing you, it's not scientific, so don't ask me to prove it, I can't) I can't see things going far. We have science and religious forums here for a reason (and this is why sometimes, some posters get banded from the science side because they repeatedly fail to produce evidence). That said, if Chuck could produce some evidence for the Holy Spirit (or even some basis for belief that it is the Holy Spirit that is the mechanism [I don't know enough about xian theology to debate that] of action it would be a very good start.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
. If instead you ask 'If God did create light 6000 years ago, then how can we see distant starlight', then creationist may be able to formulate testable theories which can be debated here. What you will get here is that the Xian god created light with the appearance of age to fool us.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
but I'll wait for Butterflytyrant to lead which direction to go on this. Or you could post these theories and we could get this thread into high gear.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
If both sides will forgive me for being a bit sheltered, am I to understand that both sides are claiming scientific support for their theories, but one side has no theories, no research done on these theories, no experiments and no groups even discussing the ideas of scientific theories to support what is arguably the most important part of the debate? This is the problem you will see on this site over and over again. The evidence the creationist will use is the bible and anything that does not align itself with the bible is by definition wrong. You can demand evidence until you are blue in the face but cdesign proponentsists will default to the bible every time, if you push them hard enough. They do get pushed hard, here.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I believe, for any rational person, that this should be pretty much case closed. Welcome to the dark side. May your bullshit detectors never go off line. As an aside, Carl Sagan's 'A Demon Haunted' world is also an excellent read: it has a lovely section about logical fallacies (vital for bullshit detectors).
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Hi, and welcome to EvC!
I think the point of this thread is for a christian creationist to explain in detail the Christian creationist theory for how light was created. Implicit in this question (I would suggest) is that the creationist modle posits that creation is but 6k years old. If this is the case why does light reach us from over 6k light years away? For a creator to create light with the appearance of age is deceptive, no?
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Your reply tells me nothing about the creationist theory of the origin of light.
This is a trait of all creationist arguments I have ever seen or heard. Please present your creation science theory of the origin of light. Thanks in advance.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
To re iterate Dr A: show us the maths (or math, if you are American).
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Has it occurred to you that there are some things in this world that you are not equipped to understand?
I know that's true of me.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
[Proof: the stars never existed at the beginning as separate entities; they emerged later]. This is not proff. The whole point of this site is that you have to support your assertions with evidence. I'm being pedantic with this point but I think it is important. One cannot say 'proof' and simply make an assertion and leave it at that. You need to provide evidence to support any claim you make: that's where you are going wrong and this is an example of exactly where you are going wrong.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
You entirely miss my point.
You need to support your position with evidence! You can't just say 'proof' and leave it at that. You do know what you need to do to support you assertions, don't you? For example: you assert the universe being finite but provide no evidence other than your say so. Edited by Larni, : for example.....
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
The entire attacks on Genesis stem from a cowardly premise of not wanting to expose Christianity and Islam, two non-original replacement theologies which have zero input of these issues. Its easier to attack the Hebrew bible, right? But in not a single instance has this obsessive drive attain any success whatsoever. What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with the topic! To reiterate my point for the hard of thinking: you can't just say 'science prooves it' without backing it up with evidence. Can't you even see that?
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Please read the above post by our glorious leader.
I'll say no more on the matter as I can't imagine I need to.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I get that now, thanks!
But still, it boils down to Jo making assertions that are not supported with evidence or reasoned argument; as per forum rules. The fact that we are in a science forum means the accuracy of the bible is not assumed a priori.
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