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Author Topic:   The folly of "authority"
Pressie
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Message 23 of 25 (650565)
02-01-2012 2:47 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by PaulK
02-01-2012 1:51 AM


Sorry PaulK, can I just add a little bit.
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Sometimes a crank idea can be proposed by a scientist and even make it into a peer-reviewed journal, like the recent paper discussed here...
  —PaulK
One thing a lot of people don't realize (and creationist organisations don't want to tell people; for them it is bread sent from heaven if one of them manages to publish something), is that getting published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal is just the first baby step in the peer-review process. In that first step an article is peer-reviewed by a handful of people. Some mistakes slip through.
Convincing a few people is a lot easier than convincing the bulk of the scientific community. The peer-review process actually happens after the publication.
The scientific community is the one that ultimately decides whether your paper was nonsense or not. And, boy, do they analise every word written in that article! Everything. From the first word in the abstract right through to the last word in conclusions. There's always someone who will call the bluff the moment a scientist writes nonsense.
When someone passes that peer-review process scientists know that they've arrived. It's not just by getting published. Being published means very little. It's getting your conclusions obtained from your research accepted by the scientific community that matters.
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Pressie
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Message 24 of 25 (650566)
02-01-2012 3:47 AM
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02-01-2012 1:51 AM


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If you really think that you understand every field better than the majority of people actually working in that field then I would say that you are the one presuming a lot.
It's called delusion.
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Pressie
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Message 25 of 25 (650568)
02-01-2012 4:12 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Coyote
01-30-2012 8:02 PM


Re: Scientific Qualifications are very low level
Coyote writes:
Anyone who has a PhD in one area and uses it to justify their views on another is an idiot.
Look at Fred Hoyle. A genius (at the time) when it came to his field of expertise (until his latter days when he made lots of incorrect statements, even is his own field). An absolute idiot when it came to other fields of expertise, like his "747 in a junkyard" statement. I mean, nobody could ever even try to present a dummer statement than that.
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