Hi Percy,
Percy writes:
This thread was opened to argue that even one of the simplest proteins could not have formed naturally because that would require all the amino acids to come together in the right order spontaneously by chance.
Let me see if I have got this straight.
Statement "the simplest proteins could not have formed naturally".
Reason: All the amino acids would have to come together in the correct order spontaneously by chance for that to happen.
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Percy writes:
It certainly didn't happen anything like the opening post suggests, with all the amino acids coming together in the correct order by chance because that would be incredibly unlikely.
Percy writes:
If you have some other reason why even a simple protein could not have formed naturally then it belongs in a different thread.
So no other reason for or against is forbidden, is that what you are saying?
Just to refresh the OP.
Message 1OP writes:
The Ribonuclease protein is the simplest protein that we know of, and can be considered the most basic building block of a cell. It is made from 124 amino acids, the first one in the strand being Lysine. There are 17 different amino acids in this protein, so to simplify it, lets say that there is a 1/17 chance of Lysine coming first. The second one in line, is Glutamic acid. The odds of it coming second are 1/289. Then comes Threonine. Chances of it coming 3rd are 1/4913. If we continue down the list, the end result is 1 followed by 552 zeroes. To put that in perspective, It's the same as a poker player drawing 19 royal flushes in a row, with out trading in any cards. If this is a million: 1,000,000. And this is a billion: 1,000,000,000. And this is a trillion: 1,000,000,000,000, We still have 546, 543, and 540 zeroes to go, respectively. To conclude, I think the chances of a living cell forming from chemicals that just happened to bond, is ridiculously unlikely.
RIDICULOUSLY UNLIKELY
Percy writes:
It certainly didn't happen anything like the opening post suggests, with all the amino acids coming together in the correct order by chance because that would be incredibly unlikely.
INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY
It seems you agree 100% with BoredomSetsIn.
I also agree.
I gave my reason for why I agree.
The only known method of creating a protein is that the information in DNA for a specific protein be sent to a receiver called a ribosome which produces the protein.
Anything else is incredibly unlikely as you have said and ridiculously unlikely as BoredomSetsIn says.
Since there is no evidence to examine for how the simplist protein was created anything other than the known method is an assumption made by pure speculation.
God Bless,
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