North Korea there will be blood?

If North Korea did decide to invade South Korea it's unlikely that they would "test the waters" by attacking only Seoul. It's more likely that Seoul, Pusan, Incheon and probably Taegu would be simultaneously attacked. That would in all probability totally destroy the nation state and government of South Korea.But what would the reaction be from China?What would be the reaction from Russia?Would it be possible today for the UN/US/Western World attempt to invade North Korea today if China opposed that action?Could Japan take any action considering the baggage and history of "Imperial Japan"?

About what they have done with the current land and population. It would likely take a decade or three to use up the wealth of the South. Well no, factually that is simply not true. But how exactly could that be done?Without the at least tacit agreement of China and Russia is their any realistic way to "terminate" either their acquisition of nuclear weapons (horses done left that barn already) or the means to deliver them (oops, that barn door was left open too it seems, horse done left already)?

What could we do? Oh yeah? So fighting ended in Afghanistan and Iraq in two weeks and after that it was just a matter of international negotiation. Good to know.

So there v
has been no fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan since week two?Okay.

LOL Way too funny.So the fighting stopped?What about Afghanistan?

You're not wrong, simply irrelevant.Sure the Nation State might be stopped from making war. It happened once before there in case you hadn't noticed.But little was solved.The question is would China and Russia allow the US to invade North Korea or respond militarily against North Korea? Would the US be allowed to invade and occupy North Korea long enough to effect a regime change?Could the US support the cost of such an action?And again, the fighting did not stop.The US has been an Occupying Army in Iraq and Afghanistan for over a decade.

Destroy what weapons? How exactly? What makes you think they cannot afford to replace them?

Why do you think that China would not intervene?North Korea as a nation is not poor. It has the resources to do almost anything it wants to do. Why?

Sorry but those are both simply insufficient reasons for the US to do anything militarily or to deny North Korea's rights to self defense.We may not like their propaganda but that is no justification for US intervention.

However what you posted was an example of US propaganda and had nothing to do with North Korea invading South Korea.Go back and look at what you wrote in Message 47.Again, follow things through.If we are going to prevent the use of weapons then it has to be done BEFORE the use of those weapons.If North Korea has not invaded South Korea or used the weapons against South Korea then what is the justification for any US Military action directly against North Korea?

Josef not Joseph.And what does any of that have to do with either reality or the topic?

Yes, of course there can be sufficient justification. For example when one nation invades another nation there can be justification for the invaded nation to resist and to even request help from other nations.But China is certainly more diplomatic than the US and very much more sophisticated.Read your quote from Xi Jinping again. It could equally apply to the US who has stationed troops and weapons on North Korea's border.

Can the US afford to occupy North Korea for a decade or so to create a new government and should we?

So should the US even care about North Korea?Should we care whether or not North Korea attacks South Korea, uses nuclear weapons against South Korea, has a totalitarian government that starves it's people?Are the our problems?If the US simply turns aside would it matter at all to the US?

The issue is not just intervene or become isolationist, that just a false dichotomy. The US should still intervene when it is in our national interest but should the US assume the mantle of the worlds guardian?North Korea is not a real threat to the US. Even a North Korea with a few nuclear weapons and intercontinental missiles is not a really major threat to the US.So in the case of North Korea in this era should the US say to Korea, Japan, Russia, China, "Sorry gang, yes, North Korea is a loose cannon and a despotic regime that is starving it's population and brainwashing them. We can certainly see how they pose a real problem for you guys but it's not my problem."