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Taq, nobody seems to understand this 'average density' so- let's drop it.I think the expansion happened only slowly at first, and has since accelerated. Now, what do you think of that?

Wow, so this Dark Energy was made up, in order to keep the expansion Outward. You also have an 'accelerating expansion' that is Outward - and I demonstrate quite clearly in my "Observational Evidence," earlier in this thread, that any 'accelerating expansion' is Inward.You have many things backward in your Big-bang scenario. I see also you have the Universe going Out, but I show (in the same piece) that we're going 'in'. Please read my 'Observational Evidence' and let me know what you think of it.

Taq, look, I don't know what is at the barycenter of the Universe - what I do know is that if there was nothing there, our rate of acceleration would decline. This does noty seem to be the case - and that spells Black Hole.

John F, I dfon't want to talk about 'average density' in this thread. What interests me far more is whether you believe the expansion started slowly or fast. It had to be one or the other.

I don't put much faith in your picture of the expansion. There is no evidence of any 'slowing down' of the expansion. I thought I had demonstrated clearly that we are going in, in my 'Observational Evidence'. Why won't you read it?

Iblis, of course Gravity would would cause the Universe's Outward Expansion to slow down and stop.The reason we're speeding up is because we're going in, not because of any fabricated force.They fabricated Dark Energy. It doesn't exist. If you're so sure it does, show me some.

Okay, John F, I don't want to discuss 'average density' here. Did you read my 'Observational Evidence' ? I wish you would. You still haven't told me, do you think the expansion started slowly, or fast?Nobody can see beyond the Observable Universe, cann we agree on that?

Iblis, in my "Observational Evidence,' I describe an ongoing force not an force with a 'finite spacetime.'I assume you know that Acceleration leads to Loss of Pressure (same thing as expansion) and that's why an airplane flies. You see, air going over the aerofoil has to go further than air going under the wing - in the same amount of time. The air going over the aerofoil has to accelerate, causing a low pressure above the wing.We're going in, and it's a black hole, then we're going to accelerate and that's going to lead to expansion. I have pretty well shown that we are going 'in' in my 'Observational Evidence.'

I have heard the 'Big-Bang' was an exploding blackn hole, except there is no record of any exploding black hole. No, the Big-Bang is too fantastic. 'Poof,' instant Universe - just like in the bible! Sorry.The whole problem started with a Belgian cleric, who heard the Observable Universe was expanding, and this Belgian cleric, LeMaitre took this information and just assumed that if the Observable Universe was expandng then the entire Universe had to be doing the same, something entirely without evidence.Nobody can see beyond the Observable Universe, and anybody who says he can - is pretending.

Iblis, Dark Energy doesn't exist.
Inward Expansion;
A low pressure is the same thing as expansion.
On it's way to the nozzle of a Central Vac, drawn by a low pressure area, Air will accelerate as it nears said nozzle, losing pressure and expanding. Air goes into the nozzle in it's most expanded state. This represents an accelerating expansion and please note the Inward Direction.Actually any 'accelerating expansion' is inward. In 1998 they found out the 'expansion' of the Observable Universe was 'accelerating.'
That's why I say we're going in. I explain this in my 'Observational Evidence. I wish you would read it.
You, with your Big Bang, have an 'accelerating expansion,' that is Outward. An 'accelerating expansion' Outward doesen't exist.I know around ten of these 'accelerating expansions', all of them Inward, Try thinking of one, and let me know what direction it is. They are fairly common.

JohnF, okay, you tell me what keeps an airplane up. Are you going to tell me Acceleration doesn't lead to a loss of pressure?

Son Goku, it was in 1998 they found the Expansion of the Observable Universe was accelerating. Any accelerating expansion is Inward, I show this clearly in my 'Observational Evidence' quite early on in this thread. I wish you would read it.

Hi Percy.n Where do you get this idea that the expansion slowed. There is absolutely no evidence of any 'slowing down' of the expansion. The expansion started slowly and has since accelerated.Percy, any accelerating expansion is inward. Try thinking of one and see what direction it is (not your Universe). There is no such thing as an Outward Accelerating Expansion. Unless you can think of one.
I explain this clearly in my 'Observational Evidence', I wish you would read it.

Einstein denounced his 'Lambda' in the strongest language possible, calling it the graetest mistake of his career.Any 'accelerating expansion' is inward. I explain this clearly in my 'Observational Evidence,' early in this thread. I ,wish you would read it.

Taq, Space isn't expanding. The Universe is a vortex, like the Milky Way, or Whirpool Galaxy, complete with a black hole at the center.We're going in, not out. Any 'accelerating expansion' is Inward. I show this clearly in my 'Observational Evidence' early in this thread.
I wish you would read it.