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Author Topic:   The black hole at the center of the Universe.
Iblis
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Message 42 of 305 (699808)
05-25-2013 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Peter Lamont
05-25-2013 5:54 PM


Context
Einstein's "greatest blunder" was using a cosmological constant set to 0 to describe a static universe. When Hubble demonstrated expansion, this number had to be reset to a positive term.
Do some research before you post this crap

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Iblis
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Message 44 of 305 (699812)
05-25-2013 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Peter Lamont
05-25-2013 6:01 PM


The black hole at the center of your argument
Peter Lamont writes:
I think the expansion happened only slowly at first, and has since accelerated. Now, what do you think of that?
This
Dark Energy writes:
In the early 1990's, one thing was fairly certain about the expansion of the Universe. It might have enough energy density to stop its expansion and recollapse, it might have so little energy density that it would never stop expanding, but gravity was certain to slow the expansion as time went on. Granted, the slowing had not been observed, but, theoretically, the Universe had to slow. The Universe is full of matter and the attractive force of gravity pulls all matter together. Then came 1998 and the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) observations of very distant supernovae that showed that, a long time ago, the Universe was actually expanding more slowly than it is today....
More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery. But it is an important mystery. It turns out that roughly 68% of the Universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the Universe.
Some research, seriously
versus
Peter Lamont writes:
What is Dark Energy except Anti-Gravity? They say Anti-Gravity doesn't exist in Wiki - pushing our Universe apart? What nonsence.

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Iblis
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Message 46 of 305 (699814)
05-25-2013 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Peter Lamont
05-25-2013 6:15 PM


Re: Context
Describe an "inward expansion" of a finite spacetime. How would it differ from, a contraction? Why would things appear to be moving farther apart rather than, closer together. Why would there be red-shift rather than, blue-shift?

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Iblis
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Message 50 of 305 (699819)
05-25-2013 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Peter Lamont
05-25-2013 6:15 PM


Re: Context
Peter Lamont writes:
Please read my 'Observational Evidence' and let me know what you think of it.
Yeah you have noticed that we live in a black hole that has been turned inside out. That's what "Big Bang" means
From "How big"

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Iblis
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Message 51 of 305 (699820)
05-25-2013 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Peter Lamont
05-25-2013 6:41 PM


Re: Uhh ... Well ...
Describe an "inward expansion" of a finite spacetime. How would it differ from, a contraction? Why would things appear to be moving farther apart rather than, closer together. Why would there be red-shift rather than, blue-shift?

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Iblis
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Message 54 of 305 (699824)
05-25-2013 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Peter Lamont
05-25-2013 6:50 PM


Re: The black hole at the center of your argument
Peter Lamont writes:
They fabricated Dark Energy. It doesn't exist. If you're so sure it does, show me some.
Are you under the impression I "believe" things? Not So.
Dark Energy is the current working explanation for accelerated expansion. Guth's Inflation model allows for it, allows for anti-gravity, allows forsomething out of nothing. To replace the dark energy model, simply provide somefhing coherent that covers all the same facts it does and solves more. Current best contender for this job is M-theory.
Describe an "inward expansion" of a finite spacetime. How would it differ from, a contraction? Why would things appear to be moving farther apart rather than, closer together. Why would there be red-shift rather than, blue-shift?
Edited by Iblis, : No reason given.

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Iblis
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Message 91 of 305 (700070)
05-29-2013 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Peter Lamont
05-28-2013 6:02 PM


Re: The black hole at the center of your argument
Peter Eater writes:
A low pressure is the same thing as expansion.
And would show blue-shift, not red-shift.
Seriously, you live in a black hole that has been turned inside out. The quicker you accept that, the closer you will be to doing actual science.
The reason it's accelerating is, some 11-dimensional bullshit yet to be properly explained.

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