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ringo
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Message 12 of 63 (706770)
09-17-2013 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by NoNukes
09-17-2013 12:10 PM


Re: Guns for Tots
NoNukes writes:
Nothing but evil is behind marketing guns to five year olds.
I don't think anybody has to "market" guns to five-year-olds. There is plenty of demand.
A few years ago there was a segment on one of those American "news" shows, 60-40 or 20 Minutes or whatever, about a woman who goes around to daycare centers teaching gun awareness. She would tell the children, "If you see a gun, don't touch it. Go and tell an adult." They dutifully repeated the instructions.
Then they were turned loose in a playroom with a real (non-functioning) gun. All of them, including the woman's own child, happily chose the gun out of the toybox, played with it, pointed it at each other and pulled the trigger. They knew how to load it; they knew how to fire it; they knew it was real.
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. A little armament makes it even more dangerous.

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ringo
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Message 25 of 63 (706841)
09-18-2013 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by NoNukes
09-17-2013 1:56 PM


Re: Guns for Tots
NoNkes writes:
ringo writes:
I don't think anybody has to "market" guns to five-year-olds.
Despite not "having to" gun manufacturers do so anyway.
They're marketing guns to the parents of five-year-olds. The children want them but the parents aren't obligated to buy them.
If the parents were responsible gun owners, chances are the children would be too.

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ringo
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Message 31 of 63 (712931)
12-08-2013 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by vimesey
12-08-2013 4:40 AM


vimesay writes:
One of the pitfalls of a written constitution I guess. The right to bear arms is a Right. With a capital R. Bestowed, unchanging and for all time....
I think the problem is in fusing the Constitution and the Bill of Rights together. As far as I'm concerned, the Constitution should define how the government is constituted, not restrict what the government can do. The Bill of Rights should be tweaked as necessary by the constituted government.

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ringo
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Message 34 of 63 (713163)
12-10-2013 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by AZPaul3
12-09-2013 2:44 PM


AZPaul3 writes:
That's because you folks are still owned by Her Majesty and run by the government the Crown decided was best for you since you are incapable of governing yourselves....
Maybe when you Canucks grow up you can have a government of your own too.
You need to catch up on your history. In 1935 all "dependencies" on the British Parliament were removed by mutual agreement. We didn't run away from home and we weren't kicked out. Both child and parent were mature about it.
AZPaul3 writes:
Now down here in the real world we kicked His Majesty's hind quarters back to England and formed our own government our own way.
Yes, that's the problem. You did it the wrong way because you weren't ready.

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ringo
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Message 57 of 63 (714020)
12-19-2013 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by AZPaul3
12-19-2013 7:08 AM


AZPaul3 writes:
We kicked you out. What the French did was keep you from running away while we whooped up on your ass.
In retrospect it may seem short-sighted but the American colonies were a minor sideshow compared to the perpetual war with France. You might compare the situation with Britain withdrawing from the Channel Islands in WW2.
Of course, you ran out of whoop ass in 1812 when a handful of Canadians sent you packing.

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