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Dogmafood
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Message 218 of 239 (766881)
08-23-2015 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by NoNukes
08-22-2015 8:35 PM


Re: Police at Risk in Traffic Stops
Upon further consideration and after suffering through more of these shooting videos I have to agree that the police probably need to have a gun immediately available. I sure wouldn't go into some of those situations without one.
Police in many situations are not held accountable when I think they should be.
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If we got out of the war on drugs business we could eliminate about half of the criminals with a stroke of the pen.
Something else to consider is that US police forces generate about $6.2 billion/yr in revenue from speeding tickets.

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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 379 days)
Posts: 1815
From: Ontario Canada
Joined: 08-04-2010


Message 221 of 239 (769046)
09-15-2015 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by ringo
09-13-2015 3:11 PM


Re: Police at Risk in Traffic Stops
That's based on the premise that adding guns to a situation improves the situation.
It is based on the premise that adding your own gun improves your odds of defending yourself against someone who is shooting at you.
I would suggest that a police officer is more likely to defuse a situation rather than escalate it if he doesn't have the means to escalate it.
If someone is shooting at you then you either fight back, run away or hide. Those are your options. I am not sure that I want my police force to run away and hide when confronted with a violent person nor is it fair to expect them to confront gunfire with anything less effective.
The police need the authority and ability to contain any violent situation that they may encounter and the problems only arise at the level of the individual when they abuse or exceed their authority. So more screening, more training and more accountability. Requiring a degree in anything would be a good start.

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