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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
ScottRP
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Message 1150 of 1310 (769359)
09-19-2015 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1149 by Bliyaal
09-19-2015 10:38 PM


Do you think it is wise not to believe in God? Can you dismiss the possibility that heaven and hell are real?

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1159 of 1310 (769394)
09-20-2015 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1151 by dwise1
09-20-2015 1:49 AM


dwise1 writes:
Which god? Which theology about "god"?
I am a person who has seen and heard a great deal of the spirit world compared to most people. I saw Jesus Christ dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding when I was nine years old. He left the flock to find that one lost sheep. I have heard the Father say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time." His voice sounds of greatness beyond this world. I have witnessed that Jesus is indeed the Son of God. I have witnessed the Lord's power to restore a soul and make it new again. I have witnessed the Holy Spirit of the Holy Bible. He is not the archangel that Islam teaches. I have witnessed both angels, demons, and powers. I have witnessed those of both heaven and hell. I have witnessed a great many truths in the Holy Bible. My personal preferance is the Catholic Bible.
dwise1 writes:
So then what are the odds for your particular position?
I see my odds at 100%.

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ScottRP
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Message 1161 of 1310 (769397)
09-20-2015 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1152 by jar
09-20-2015 8:43 AM


jar writes:
Of course it is wise to not believe in God; belief in a God is not reasonable, logical, rational or evidenced.
Psalm 14:1. The fool has said in his heart, There is no God."
jar writes:
But that is also totally irrelevant. Nothing you have presented in any way offers any reason to believe in a god and rather simply indicates not just utter ignorance but willful ignorance at best if not insanity or dishonesty.
I am not ignorant. And I am of sound mind and honest. This is the way God wants me to be.

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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1162 of 1310 (769398)
09-20-2015 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1153 by Bliyaal
09-20-2015 8:45 AM


Bliyaal writes:
Should I remind you that you still didn't answer my questions? Can you dismiss the possibility of an hallucination? Can you dismiss the possibility of mental illness?
Yes, on both accounts. I have never hallucinated in my entire life. And I have never had a mental problem.
Now you can answer my question...do you think it wise not to believe in God?
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.

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ScottRP
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Posts: 515
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Message 1165 of 1310 (769405)
09-20-2015 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1156 by ringo
09-20-2015 2:07 PM


ringo writes:
The Bible says he does. You've been shown that. You're directly contradicting the Bible.
Do you honestly believe that the third person of the Holy Trinity is a dove? The Holy Spirit has no reason to lower Himself to being a dove. Also, if the Holy Spirit appeared as a dove, He would be seen masquerading as a lying deceiving devil. Is this what you think of the Holy Spirit?

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1170 of 1310 (769414)
09-20-2015 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1169 by Coragyps
09-20-2015 5:44 PM


A small handful of Christians misinterpret that scripture. The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Holy Trinity, He would not be appearing as a dove.
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.

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ScottRP
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Message 1172 of 1310 (769418)
09-20-2015 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1156 by ringo
09-20-2015 2:07 PM


ringo writes:
The Bible says he does. You've been shown that. You're directly contradicting the Bible.
If you believe that scripture says the Holy Spirit appeared as a dove, you are one of the few Christians that misinterpret that scripture.
Scripture actually says;
Mathew 3:16. When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.
This photograph shows the Spirit of God descending like a dove.

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ScottRP
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Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1174 of 1310 (769429)
09-20-2015 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1173 by Coragyps
09-20-2015 6:21 PM


That is an actual photograph of the Holy Spirit. As can be seen, He is far from a hallucination or a delusion.

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ScottRP
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Message 1178 of 1310 (769437)
09-20-2015 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1175 by Coragyps
09-20-2015 7:36 PM


That photograph has not been touched by Photoshop.

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ScottRP
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Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1179 of 1310 (769439)
09-20-2015 8:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1171 by Asgara
09-20-2015 5:54 PM


Asgara writes:
Not sure why anyone is still here. This thread is 1170 posts long and it is nothing more than Scott saying "I'm not delusional," and everyone else saying "um Yes you are."
/rolls eyes
If you look at the last two photographs in the opening post you can clearly see that I am not delusional.

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ScottRP
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Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 1181 of 1310 (769444)
09-20-2015 10:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1180 by Asgara
09-20-2015 9:08 PM


You having worked in the mental health field along side a bunch of quack psychiatrists means nothing. I would suggest that you look into their history. These are the same caring physicians that would kill patients drilling holes in their heads trying to release evil spirits. Evil spirits are not in a person's head. This shows how much they knew. Studies only "suggest" that psychosis is a brain disorder. This has not been proven. It has been known for thousands of years to be the devils which have driven a person mad. Today, some countries still teach this truth and some US psychiatrists will inform their patients that they may have the devil in their lives. These physicians have attempted to cover up their trail of errors over the years by changing the word madness to insanity and now to psychosis. You are speaking of a field of medicine which has a long history of inhuman treatment of patients and gross errors such as excessive drug treatment, excessive shock therapy and frontal lobotomies. These are the quack doctors of which you have acquired your knowledge from and put your faith in.

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ScottRP
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Posts: 515
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Message 1184 of 1310 (769449)
09-20-2015 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1182 by arachnophilia
09-20-2015 10:52 PM


You put your faith and trust in a bunch of quacks. History has already proven this to be true. Studies only "suggest" a brain disorder. The brain disorder is more likely brain damage do to drug abuse which is a sin that brings evil spirits into one's life. Many Christians bear witness to this truth. Insanity is believing the lies of the devil. It has been known for thousands of years to be the devils to drive a person mad. You can find this in the scripture with people foaming at the mouth having been driven mad by a demon. Most cases are not this severe. My brain has never caused me to hear or see anything that was not there. You people fall way short of understanding spiritual reality. If you insist on believing the lies of this world you will die in your sins.
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.

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ScottRP
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Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
Joined: 02-26-2015


Message 1189 of 1310 (769474)
09-21-2015 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1186 by arachnophilia
09-21-2015 11:10 AM


arachnophilia writes:
we've literally seen evidence to the contrary in this thread, scott
All the photographs and the video I have shown you are of genuine spirits. You can disagree. But you cannot say they are not when you do not know.
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
Joined: 02-26-2015


Message 1190 of 1310 (769475)
09-21-2015 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1187 by ringo
09-21-2015 11:53 AM


ringo writes:
Looks like a dove. That's what the Bible says.
That is not what the bible says. Descending like a dove. Not "looks like a dove".
ringo writes:
He has no reason to lower himself to being an orb either.
He is not lowering Himself. The orb is omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent. He is an absolute perfect spirit. He is God the third person of the Holy Trinity.
ringo writes:
The Bible says that the Holy Spirit appeared in the form of a dove. What part of that do you not understand?
You misinterpret scripture.

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
Joined: 02-26-2015


Message 1191 of 1310 (769476)
09-21-2015 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1188 by ringo
09-21-2015 12:00 PM


ScottRP writes:
Scripture actually says;
Mathew 3:16. When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.
ringo writes:
We've been through this. Luke clarified:
quote:
Luke 3:21-22 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.
"Like a dove" means "in bodily form like a dove". The Holy Spirit looked like a dove. The only one who's misinterpreting it is you.
It says, "the Holy Spirit descended on Him in bodily form like a dove.

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