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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
Bliyaal
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From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1115 of 1310 (769287)
09-18-2015 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1114 by ScottRP
09-18-2015 7:13 PM


Did you read my post?
A better title would be "The former Defense minister of Canada think aliens are reals"... like a lot of unreliable people out there.
It never ever means Canada admits aliens are real. Not even close.
And why am I not surprised you're making your mind based on extraordinary unsubstanciated claims?
Edited by Bliyaal, : No reason given.
Edited by Bliyaal, : No reason given.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1117 of 1310 (769289)
09-18-2015 7:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1116 by ScottRP
09-18-2015 7:42 PM


I have seen the inside of your middle finger. You have to take my word as true.
Come on, provide better evidence than you saying so.

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2398 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
Joined: 02-17-2012


Message 1124 of 1310 (769299)
09-18-2015 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1119 by ScottRP
09-18-2015 8:05 PM


I am not trying to provide evidence.
Riiiiiiiiiiight... so the hundreds of reposts of pictures aren't what you call evidence. Noted.
Like many others have done before, I am bearing witness to having seen an alien. Many have seen UFO's as well
Eyewitness testimonies are the worst kind of evidence imaginable. It's infamously unreliable. You should find better than that or believe that I've seen the interior of your middle finger because I say so.
If you had a real photograph of an alien and posted it on this forum. What do you think the other members on this forum would say?
Depends on many factors. Pictures can be easily forged. If the quality is good and show no sign of forgery, we could try to gather more information. But in itself, one picture doesn't mean a lot. Science is about repeatability.
If you provided government documents that aliens were real. They would declare forgery and falsehood.
Again, more information would be necessary. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
By claiming we would automatically reject a document like that you're projecting your own way of dealing with evidence as you have shown in this thread many times.
There is no getting through to hard-headed people.
You're the living proof of that. Try a mirror.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1146 of 1310 (769354)
09-19-2015 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1127 by ScottRP
09-19-2015 10:00 AM


I was referring to evidence of aliens.
Why the video of Hellyer then? You can't even keep track of what you're saying.
Who are you kidding, an alien could appear before them and they would call it an hallucination. They could be abducted and they would call it sleep paralysis. They could dig the entire experience up with hypnosis and then they would say that hypnosis is false or unreliable.
Again... projecting much? Don't think we're all like you.
Anyway, can you dismiss the possibility of an hallucination? Can you dismiss the possibility of sleep paralysis? We know hallucinations happen but we don't have good evidence for aliens. Occam's razor apply and cut in favor of hallucinations.
I may be hard-headed about the things that I know are true and real. But at least I am not hard-headed about the things that I honestly do not know are real or not.
You do not know the real and true meaning of "knowing" but you're still hard-headed about it.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1149 of 1310 (769357)
09-19-2015 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1147 by ScottRP
09-19-2015 10:25 PM


And you refuse to answer questions, going into insults instead thinking it would help your cause.
Can you dismiss the possibility of an hallucination? Can you dismiss the possibility of mental illness?
The answer, for you, is absolutely no. Go get yourself checked.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1153 of 1310 (769370)
09-20-2015 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1150 by ScottRP
09-19-2015 11:33 PM


I couldn't put it better than dwise1 just before this post.
Also, no one dismiss the possibility of heaven and hell are real. We simply don't have evidence of their existence. The default position is always don't believe until you have evidence. And before you say it, the bible isn't evidence of the existence of a god, only evidence that people believed in a god. That's a pretty big difference.
Should I remind you that you still didn't answer my questions? Can you dismiss the possibility of an hallucination? Can you dismiss the possibility of mental illness?

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2398 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
Joined: 02-17-2012


Message 1183 of 1310 (769448)
09-20-2015 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1162 by ScottRP
09-20-2015 4:29 PM


Yes, on both accounts. I have never hallucinated in my entire life. And I have never had a mental problem.
How would you know? Did you ever get yourself checked? You're telling us things everyone think it's false, it maybe a sign of a problem man...
Now you can answer my question...do you think it wise not to believe in God?
Reading problems? I answered that question. The default position is to not believe unless we have good evidence. You haven't provided it. And as dwise1 said... which god? Humans have created a lot of them.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1192 of 1310 (769483)
09-21-2015 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1189 by ScottRP
09-21-2015 2:06 PM


All the photographs and the video I have shown you are of genuine spirits.
So you claim... as you claimed that Canada officialy recognized that aliens exist. Why should we believe you? Ah yes... because you know. Again, an baseless claim.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1202 of 1310 (769546)
09-22-2015 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1194 by ScottRP
09-21-2015 3:24 PM


Well yes you did...
From Message 1099 :
Canadian Government Admits UFO's & Aliens Exist
Some of you who did not believe in aliens & UFO's before may very well believe now.
If your intent wasn't to claim that... why did you post it?
Your tactic is obvious, you throw s**** on the wall hoping something will stick to it and when it doesn't, you retry just in case.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
-- Albert Einstein

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2398 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1208 of 1310 (769574)
09-22-2015 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1205 by ScottRP
09-22-2015 1:07 PM


I did not make the claim.
In what twisted reality where do you live? You claimed it by posting a video you considered evidence. If not, what was your intent behing the post? I already asked you but as always you refuse to answer.
Right after the video you added :
Some of you who did not believe in aliens & UFO's before may very well believe now.
Your intent was clear, to make us believe aliens are reals since Canada admits it.
That turned out to be false. So why should we believe anything you say without further evidence?
You made a lot of claim here a provided us nothing except your words.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1211 of 1310 (769581)
09-22-2015 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1209 by ScottRP
09-22-2015 2:03 PM


My intention was for people to watch the video. If I was making a claim you would know without dubious uncertainty.
No uncertainty here, maybe in your head...
Ok you wanted us to watch the video but why? You don't just do random stuff for the sake of it right?
I write this post for the sole purpose of you reading it. Does that make sense? No. How dumb would that be? If that were true I would write random letters all around.
You made a claim, you were wrong. Grow up and admit it.

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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 1222 of 1310 (769614)
09-23-2015 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1212 by ScottRP
09-22-2015 3:12 PM


You are merely looking for me to make one little mistake so that you can claim discredit of all my work on this thread.
Little mistake? Dude, you claimed that the Canadian government admitted aliens exist! As a Canadian, I consider this a very bold claim and a very big mistake. If we can't trust you on a claim like this, why should we trust you on any other claim?
I claim that aliens are real.
Without evidence
I claim that God is real.
Without evidence
I claim that Jesus is real.
Without evidence
I claim that the Holy Spirit is real
Without evidence
and that I have shown you real photographs of Him and some of His works.
Not reliable evidence as we have shown.
I claim that angels and demons are real.
Without evidence
I claim that heaven and hell are real.
Without evidence
Now that you know what I claim, try proving me wrong instead of being so underhanded and dirty.
Two fallacies, congratulations!
Burden of proof : It's your job to prove your claims.
Ad hominem : Attacking the person instead of the argument.
You're not in a good position right now.

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2398 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
Joined: 02-17-2012


Message 1244 of 1310 (769720)
09-24-2015 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1223 by ScottRP
09-23-2015 1:31 PM


Your claims about aliens are dealt with by others so I'm only going to comment on this.
I have shown photographs of God's presence here on earth through His Holy Spirit. This also demonstrates the presence of those who sit on the thrones of judgement, Jesus and His angels. I have also shown a video of a spirit flying in one of God's chariots (orbs). Both good and evil spirits travel in these chariots (orbs). If you had listened to the video you could tell that the spirit was an evil, deceiving spirit in hell. All that I have shown leads to the reality of heaven as well.
You have it backward. You have to show that God exists before making the claim that your photographs show what you say they show. Not the other way around. You're basically saying : "Look, here's a spirit in an orb therefore God."
You can lead a horse to water but you can not make them drink.
You're absolutely right! This is why I'm going to call your Mr. Horse from now on.

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2398 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
Joined: 02-17-2012


Message 1248 of 1310 (769740)
09-24-2015 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1245 by ScottRP
09-24-2015 11:27 AM


Scripture and biblical artwork are necessary sources of information used to understand and identify the Holy Spirit and chariots of God. Necessary sources of information should not be discounted in any argument.
Only if they're shown to reflect the truth and are reliable. The bible doesn't make the cut in those categories.
With your prefered version of the bible discounted, we're left only with your claims and your gullibility. You swallow everything that could maybe help your argument without checking the sources.

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2398 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
Joined: 02-17-2012


Message 1258 of 1310 (769806)
09-25-2015 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1256 by ScottRP
09-24-2015 10:30 PM


Biblical Historians would disagree with you. I suppose you are claiming to know more than them.
Ok, here's a book saying there's a god. What's the evidence outside of it? Nothing. You're saying it's true because it says it's true. There's also a lot of wrong things in it. Not reliable.
It is not possible for you to identify the Holy Spirit and some of His works without biblical artwork and scripture. This is ridiculous.
Since the bible isn't reliable, I'll dismiss your claims about the Holy Spirit. It's based on an unreliable source like yours claims about aliens.
It is you who swallows everything that supports your denial of the truth.
How can I deny something that you haven't shown to be true in the first place? Everyone here, even very religious people think you're gullible, a fraud, deluded, mentaly ill or possessed by demons. We tried very hard and for a very long time now to show you but you're in complete denial. You even admitted that you're not open to the smallest possibility of being wrong!

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