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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not sure why but kept having a bad feeling about my post on this subject so had to delete it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There are no doubt purely superstitious responses to eclipses and other natural events due to crowd hysteria that we can well do without, but they have prophetic meaning in the Bible. You may of course dismiss it nevertheless.
This current series of blood moons that will finish tonight have all occurred on Jewish High Holy Days, starting with Passover 2014. The one tonight falls on the Feast of Tabernacles, or Sukkot in Yiddish, and this particular feast is often considered to be associated with Jesus' Second Coming, because its significance is "God dwelling among His people." The Spring and Summer holidays of Passover and Pentecost marked the founding of the Church, starting with Jesus' death on the Passover (as the pure and perfect Passover Lamb the Jews sacrificed every years on that date in commemoration of the night of exodus from Egypt) and followed up at Pentecost by the giving of the Holy Spirit. This gives reason to think events involving Jesus' return could very well be associated with the Fall holidays of Rosh Hashanah (or the Jewish New Year), Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement, and Sukkot/Tabernacles. All three have implications for the establishment of a new order of life which Jesus' second coming would bring about. Scripture says "The moon will be turned to blood and the sun will not give its light" before the Day of the Lord, which is often understood to refer to both a solar and a lunar eclipse occurring in close proximity, right before Jesus' return. Nevertheless we are not told when Jesus will come the second time and that we will not know, it's going to be sudden and surprising. Except that we ARE told to look for "signs" that it's close. It's pretty close. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well then that duo is to happen before the Day of the Lord.
ABE: The blood moons also usually occur on Jewish Holidays. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It doesn't matter how much you pray for it Faith, it ain't going to happen in your lifetime. Well then perhaps you are a prophet.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of course not; it was chosen to be that way. God appointed the times of the feasts of Israel and instructed them in how they were to be observed, so clearly He chose them in relation to the phases of the moon, and put them in the seasons of the blood moons.
Interesting astronomical information here though. ABE: None of it is presented as miraculous, just as "signs in the heavenlies" to look for. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I just remember a pastor responding to the blood moon excitement with the information that there's nothing special about blood moons occurring on the Jewish holidays, that it's very common. Clearly the holidays were designed to occur at those times. How exact the timing is I don't know but I should be able to find the information easily enough.
Yes I guess I should just have referred you to dwise's astronomically interesting information. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Except that apparently the Jewish High Holy Days were timed to coincide with those astronomical events. Passover and the Fall feasts are in fact six months apart. It's interesting to see all this in astronomical perspective.
ABE: And a TOTAL eclipse DOESN"T happen that frequently, so you are including partial eclipses, but this blood moon tetrad is all total eclipses. ALSO, it isn't a BLOOD moon unless it IS total. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
But doesn't the totality of an eclipse depend partly on the location of the viewer?
The last blood moon before these four was some years ago and I did go out to see it -- out to the parking lot -- but it was so high, directly overhead, it was tiny and I had to crane my neck uncomfortably to see it. But I did. A tiny little orange orb. Let me guess: ALL blood moons are directly overhead. I appreciate your photo because you bring it up close, close enough to see the blood red color in the craters, which justifies its name. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Just for reference, looking up the dates of the Jewish holidays:
Rosh Hashana Sep 14-15, 2015 M‑Tu The Jewish New Year Yom Kippur Sep 23, 2015 W Day of Atonement Sukkot Sep 28-29, 2015 M‑Tu Sep 30-Oct 4, 2015 W‑Su Feast of Tabernacles Reminds me that Tabernacles is a week-long observance. So is Passover. I suppose it must count if a blood moon occurs anywhere in that week. But that's something I could look up. The Jewish day starts at sunset the previous day so this blood moon should be full just as the holiday is beginning. I also looked up the dates of blood moon tetrads but none of the sources were quite what I had in mind. A few sites say there have been eight since the time of Christ, but I also saw seven mentioned. I guess blood moons that don't occur in tetrads are a different category. For the prophecy of Christ's return only one blood moon with one solar eclipse is all that's required. However, the scripture doesn't say anything about their association with any holiday anyway, it just now seems clear that they usually/always are associated and that's interesting. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Well I missed the last three then. The one I saw was some years ago.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
OK, keep getting good information here, thanks. I knew it was going to be a "supermoon" but I thought that might have something to do with the atmospheric effects at the horizon. Is this the same as the "harvest moon" then?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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I would have thought that about the size difference too and maybe it does have something to do with the atmospheric effect but this is a harvest moon, which I believe is the closest moon of the year, and I saw one of those some twenty years ago as I was driving right toward it as it rose in front of me and that thing was HUGE. Not a blood moon but a bright white full moon, but HUGE. I don't even want to guess at how much of my visual field it occupied, but that tiny little blood moon I saw years ago was about the apparent size of a green pea and I feel like saying this was a beach ball in comparison. Probably an exaggeration, maybe a soccer ball, OK maybe a softball. But still there was a big difference. So I'll expect this one tonight to be pretty spectacular. I hope I don't forget.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Speaking of signs in the heavenlies as related to major Biblical prophecy, there's a documentary about the Star of Bethlehem I saw some years ago that I think is pretty interesting. A Christian lawyer did some research with astronomy software that pictures the position of the stars throughout the centuries back through the time of Christ and came up with some interesting correspondences between the starry orbs and the birth of Christ. Since the exact time of Christ's birth isn't known for sure he had to do a lot of maneuvering of the program to figure out the best time and there's room for slippage there of course, but anybody who's into astronomy might find his research interesting.
The Star of Bethlehem
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I missed the moon, slept through it. Should have expected that since my sleep patterns have been weird.
Just watched The Star of Bethlehem myself. It's mostly Larson the lawyer talking in a classroom situation explaining his research with Bible quotes that describe the phenomena he's researching. He does show the astronomical events as illustrated by his software, but it goes by awfully fast and the picture is not very clear. Wish it was a bigger screen, clearer picture, and allowed a much longer time to digest what's going on. Also, although it's titled the Bethlehem Star the most interesting heavenly events occur around the crucifixion, when there is also a blood moon. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Also some questions and thoughts lingering in my mind.
1) Doesn't the harvest moon occur at the perigee as dwise was saying about this one, so it should be closer and that would be one reason it appears larger? 2) Although the Jewish holidays follow the phases of the moon and occur in the months when blood moons always occur, lunar eclipses don't always occur in those months, or are often partial and not the total eclipse of a blood moon. It's the blood moon that figures in the scripture. 3) Also although it was pointed out that the solar and lunar eclipses occur two weeks apart, lunar eclipses are much more common and don't all that often occur with the solar eclipse. That makes the combination of total solar and total lunar eclipse a lot more rare than the comment implied. That prophecy by the way of both the moon turning to blood and the sun not giving its light appears to have been fulfilled at Christ's crucifixion. The second coming is to be heralded by signs in sun, moon and stars, a more general statement about the signs to look for. But I haven't been following prophecy all that closely so this too may not be quite accurate. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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