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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Now if this doesn't answer you it's probably because I don't have a clue what you were trying to say, so I'm going to sleep and forgetting about it I was perfectly clear. The use of the term progressive which would very well describe those things that you agree the Communist party had nothing to do with pretty much diminishes the connection between any modern use of the term and the Communist party. It really does not matter who the first person to use the term might be or have been. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I've been explicit in several different ways Actually, you haven't. I cannot get a firm example of a PC statement out of you despite making direct requests. I can get statements that say that liberals aspire to be PC though. I've indicated that my reason for asking is that I believe that the way you apply the term PC is suspect because of your exuberance in throwing around unsupportable generalizations about what most liberals or progressives do. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
No, it is specifically the calling of anyone who objects to illegal immigration a racist or a hater. This is practiced daily at EvC and I have been its target so I know what I am talking about. This is quite clearly untrue. I wonder how often you've actually been called a racist on this board. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I'm defending Trump on something. His arguments are called racist. That's nowhere near to calling you a racist. I am not aware of any of Trump's statements that I would call racist, but certainly he's made some that I think were unwarranted attacks on Mexico and illegal immigrants. None of that means that your defense of Trump makes you racist. However if you feel that attacking somebody that you support is the same as attacking you, then you've probably done some unwarranted adoptions of things that weren't even addressed to you. Surely you cannot expect people to hold back on their speech just in case you might support that person. I have to admit that I do find your defense of some of Trump's statements puzzling and surprising, but I haven't called you a racist because of your defense of Trump. I haven't even gone so far as to call Trump racist. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Depends on your tactics, whether you seek to force your will on everybody else while organizing your community. By organizing a food bank? Really, Faith, this is beyond the pale. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Yes, Theodoric was harshly critical of Faith. But then Blue Jay took Theodoric to task for that. More to the point, it seems a number of us were taken aback by Theodoric's position, in part because of his fairly rational posting history.
You seem to be saying that when a conservative makes a harsh criticism of a liberal, that's just free speech, while when a liberal makes a harsh criticism of a conservative that's PC. I've certainly noticed that. And it is worse that that. Insults on liberals are apparently always true, while insults directed at conservatives are considered to be falsehoods directed at shutting off conversation. Goose/gander? Pot/Kettle? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
and some are completely tangential with no connection based on any underlying philosophy Could you cite an example liberal view position that has no connection with any underlying philosophy (meaning, I assume, no connection to some larger group that is connected). I'm not coming up with my own examples, and I want to rule out the possibility that I'm just wearing liberal blinders. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
The point is, when Liberals do this, it's called PC. I don't know what it's called when conservatives do it, but conservatives do do it too. Doesn't this state of affairs seem even the least bit suspicious to you? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
e have a term for when Liberals ignore the issues/people/questions and just focus on spotting bigotry, etc.: Political Correctness. So conservatives do not ignore the issues/people/questions and focus on spotting bigotrty, etc.? Are you aware that etc is Latin for "and other things?". Your position sounds like nonsense to me particularly when you acknowledge that conservatives do the same thing. Faith is a prime example of a misuser of the term PC. To Faith, PC is essential synonymous with leftism. I agree that under her definition, only liberals can be PC. What do we call it when conservatives focus in on the word bigotry and ignore the fact that liberals are doing more than just labelling speech, they are actually making points about why such speech is unacceptable? It appears that what we call that is still liberals being PC. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
n a lot of issues progs have given up arguing the issues and used a weaponized version of PC to shut down the opposition and all discussion of those issues. What issue is not discussed here because the progressives have given up discussing the issues? I understand the accusation. I just don't give it much credence. Here is your chance to point to something specific.
For others it is glaringly obvious. Sure. I will admit that it is possible that I am missing it. Now throw me a bone and point to the water I cannot see. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Show that there is a SYSTEMATIC body of accusations that is used in a systematic and predictable way in response to liberals the way PC/Cultural Marxism is used against conservatives. Calling liberals PC and Marxists are excellent examples of you throwing accusations and avoiding the issues. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
And a dangerous one at that, with your pitiful concepts such as 'unacceptable' speech. Surely even you can see the irony in statements like this one. Seriously Jon. Do you have to play the buffoon in every thread? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
. Many do in fact use it as a weapon to shut down a legitimate argument and use it a way similar to a filibuster. Conservatives have plenty of bad tendencies, but this bad tendency is particular to Progs. This place is full of lefties. When are one of you PC labelers going to point to someone here attempting to shut down discussion in such a way? I spent an entire thread requesting such an example from you, without success. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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"you called me a bigot, which is an example of a liberal PC/Cultural Marxist tactic." 1) I did not call you a bigot. 2) Your complaint is that playing tit-for-tat only tars one side but not the other. That is nonsense. 3) You don't want for liberals to attack you for calling them all commies. That's just what you do. So yeah, your own version of throwing around insults indiscriminately is bad behavior and just as bad as what you complain about. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
What I mean by "shut down" is by excluding anything outside of your racist narrative. 1) How can I shut you down in a written forum?2) Why is calling a racist statement racist unfair in some way? Apparently, people are making racists statements that they simply cannot rationally defend. Because if they could then they could easily either defend them, or continue explaining their position. Racism is bad and there is nothing wrong with calling someone on that. So why use it as a tactic?
One example would be Genomicus and Modulous in the White Privilege thread. I'm too lazy to look up specific post numbers Apparently, your aim is too indiscriminate, you acknowledge that you have missed one person and won't be specific about the other. How am I supposed to take this seriously. How did Modulous attempt to shut down discussion? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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