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Author Topic:   Question: Why did animals have to die in the great flood?
jar
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Message 18 of 47 (786886)
06-28-2016 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Phat
06-28-2016 6:46 PM


Re: Bible Study vs Critical Thinking 101
The answer is that it made a good story. It is the god character in the story setting up a plot device to introduce the concept of a new beginning.
It's much like the absurd Exodus saga, stories written to earn a nights lodging and a meal or three.

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Message 21 of 47 (786892)
06-29-2016 12:09 AM
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06-28-2016 10:31 PM


Re: Bible Study vs Critical Thinking 101
So far the evidence is that most of the Bible stories are folk tales. The Flood never happened, Exodus never happened, the Conquest of Canaan never happened, there was no Garden of Eden, but that does not mean there is not things to be learned from the stories.
The two Biblical Flood myths serve a purpose, of a God that regrets creating life and so purges it saving only the select few; the Chosen Ones; a who then later swears to never repeat that act of wanton destruction. It's a very human God, similar to all other rulers, capricious and destructive but then returning to rationality. And it allowed a people to claim preference and superiority; from the God they created if not from the rest of the world, the universe and reality.
Remember, the Hebrews were never a significant power, never respected, never relevant except within their own mythos and mythology.

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jar
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Message 36 of 47 (786948)
06-29-2016 5:31 PM
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06-29-2016 4:01 PM


Re: Bible Study vs Critical Thinking 101
Phat writes:
I am interested in learning from GOD, however...not from human foibles. (which i can also learn from...but my point is that I believe GOD speaks to humanity. I am just trying to prove it)
The only way you could prove that is by presenting evidence that could be critically examined.
Where is the evidence that GOD speaks to anyone?

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Message 37 of 47 (786949)
06-29-2016 5:34 PM
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06-29-2016 4:25 PM


Re: Bible Study vs Critical Thinking 101
Spy vs Spy comes to mind.

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Message 44 of 47 (786973)
06-30-2016 8:11 AM
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06-30-2016 7:50 AM


where it is included
The Book of Enoch is included in two of the Canons, the Ethiopian Long Canon and the Eritrean Orthodox canon however parts from it are included in Jude and even Jesus is quoted as referencing it. It seems it was pretty popular about the time Jesus would have been living.
But if you get a chance to read it I think you'd get a kick out of it. It's definitely a fantasy comparable to Star Wars or Star Trek but certainly not on the same level of inspiration of Lord of the Rings.

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jar
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Message 46 of 47 (786978)
06-30-2016 9:11 AM
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06-30-2016 8:22 AM


Re: where it is included
Pressie writes:
Thanks, but if it was 'inspired by God' it would be included in 'The Word of God' used by the mainstream Protestant denominations seeing that they claim to know the ultimate Truth.
Yet, those books aren't included in 'The Word of God'.
Remember, the Mainstream Protestant denominations don't make the same claims as the Fundies or "Bible Christians". And of course those that do claim what you seem to assert are in denial about so much that is included, particularly all the supposed God Inspired contradictions and misinformation that does exist in the Bible stories.
Those who lay claim to having the Ultimate "TRUTH" have faith in that Truth in spite of any evidence. If you look closely at the actual claims made by such denominations as opposed to the practice you find that those who actually create such Statements of Faith play it safe and cagey; they include statements like "in the original manuscript are inspired and without error". Of course there are no original manuscripts for anything found in any bible story in any Canon.

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