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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Yes, now evolution because of their demand by the dark side to be used to dumb down all people is forced on students and adults, and into the minds of the dumb and getting dumber population. The tables have turned so that they can persecute anyone that dares oppose evolution and luck and chance thinking.
SEE Implications for Evolution thread SEE Evolution is a Racist Doctrine thread Now, because the majority falsely believe in the delusion and devastation of evolutionary thinking they are able to persecute others and CENSOR others as ******** proves. Evolutionists hate being asked questions because they dont know where we came from and have no proofs and no evidences.And so they persecute, mock and villify those that oppose them... For with them its all pretense and semantics.Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science. Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Davidjay writes: SEE Implications for Evolution thread Looked there and once again you simply failed to support ANY of your assertions.
Davidjay writes: SEE Evolution is a Racist Doctrine thread Looked there and once again you simply failed to support ANY of your assertions or provide any evidence that Evolution is a Racist Doctrine. In addition you did not respond to the fact that you post lies.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
That's a copout. Religiously-minded people can still be critical thinkers and can use evidence when there is evidence.
Religiously (belief minded) people are not as enamored of evidence and critical thought as are practical verifiable evidential people.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
"Not negatively related"? That kind of contortion should set off your own alarm bells. Here you job is to show why IQ is not negatively related to religiosity - if that is your claim. You're the one making the claim. It's right there in your topic title: "Atheists are more intelligent than Religious people". I'm just questioning your claim. You're the one who's making the extrapolation from "better at tests" to "more intelligent". The onus is on you to justify that extrapolation. What does "more intelligent" even mean?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
ringo writes: Not negatively related"? That kind of contortion should set off your own alarm bells. Hohum. The study found that intelligence is negatively correlated with religiosity. That means that the more religious people are the less intelligent they are - on average So, if you're objecting to the conclusion it's your job to show why.
What does "more intelligent" even mean? Ah, now I understand your problem. Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Je suis Mancunian. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
Then answer the question.
ringo writes:
Ah, now I understand your problem. What does "more intelligent" even mean?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
ringo writes: Then answer the question. You want me to give you the wiki on intelligence? Really?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Je suis Mancunian. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
No. I didn't ask what intelligence is. I asked: What does MORE intelligent mean? You want me to give you the wiki on intelligence? Really? What are the real-world implications of being "more intelligent"? What impact does it have on your life? What are the concrete results of the number 120 being bigger than the number 110?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
ringo writes: What are the real-world implications of being "more intelligent"? University entrance, higher paid jobs? Faster learning, greater ability to understand complex ideas, ability to do hard sums that help us understand the universe, ability to talk shit on internet fora?
What impact does it have on your life? What are the concrete results of the number 120 being bigger than the number 110? See above.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Je suis Mancunian. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
So atheists have higher paying jobs than religious people?
University entrance, higher paid jobs? Tangle writes:
Do you have evidence that atheists are "better" at those things than religious people?
Faster learning, greater ability to understand complex ideas, ability to do hard sums that help us understand the universe, ability to talk shit on internet fora?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
ringo writes: So atheists have higher paying jobs than religious people? I dunno, seems likely but the paper and the thread deals with intelligence and religiosity. Perhaps you could address that?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Je suis Mancunian. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
It's your point. Perhaps you should address it yourself. You claimed that "more intelligent" means higher paid jobs. Unless you can back that up, it seems that "more intelligent" is meaningless rhetoric.
I dunno, seems likely but the paper and the thread deals with intelligence and religiosity. Perhaps you could address that?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
ringo writes: It's your point. It's not my point. You asked for examples of how IQ affected our lives, I gave you a few including that. Now you're attempting to turn the topic away from the actual point which has to do with religiosity not jobs.
Perhaps you should address it yourself. You claimed that "more intelligent" means higher paid jobs. Unless you can back that up, it seems that "more intelligent" is meaningless rhetoric. If you want to start a topic discussing what IQ tests are measuring and whether they work, be my guest. Meanwhile IQ tests are real and are used extensively in social studies as a way of assessing relative intelligence. So 'more intelligence and 'less intelligence' is being measured in some objective way. We know that some people are more intelligent than others and that this has a real effect in the world - they just attempt to put a number on it so it can be used analytically.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Je suis Mancunian. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
Try to keep up: You asked for examples of how IQ affected our lives, I gave you a few including that. Now you're attempting to turn the topic away from the actual point which has to do with religiosity not jobs. 1. You claim that "Atheists are more intelligent than Religious people".2. I asked what "more intelligent" means. 3. You gave, as an example, the ability to make more money. IF you could demonstrate that atheists make more money than atheists (on average), then MAYBE that would be because they are more intelligent and your conclusion MIGHT be valid.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Intelligent people dont make more money than other people. Intelligent people, spiritual people invest their lives in people and not into things and possessions.
Evolutionists and atheists opnly have materialism and their pet theory of evolution as their worthless crutch into the next life. How very sadEvolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science. Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,
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