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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
So I differ with the topic and title, and would change it to CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE Some fundamentalist Christians are 180 anti-science--all it takes is for science to disagree with their religious beliefs and old folk tales. They reject any science that disagrees with their religious beliefs, and in some cases become real internet trolls spreading their anti-science propaganda and delusions.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
The same can be said about evolutionists, they reject anything that differs with their religious belief system in evolution...
But each individual has to search and be responsible for their choices. In Christianity, Jesus makes sure it is an individual CHOICE as He is not group oriented and does not force like evolutionists in their schools and universities. Its all a matter of FREE CHOICE.... evolutionists should learn about free choice, **** speech and ***** discussions.... Coyote similiarly you must learn and study SET LAW, as some is a minority and some does not disprove all. Learn what SET LAW dictates about a majority or over half and what you can learn from its LOGIC. Then your comments would make more sense. Similarly dont automatically mindlessly deny deny deny, think and study what you are commenting on without trying to always back up your religion and put down Christianity and Christ. Just a suggestion...Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science. Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
The same can be said about evolutionists, they reject anything that differs with their religious belief system in evolution... The difference is the sciences rely on data (evidence) while religions rely on belief (old folk tales). And the various religions can't even agree on which old folk tales are to be believed! Here's a nice old tale for you.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
King James Version (KJV) - Version Information - BibleGateway.com
Instead of reading your myths and non facts, Read above...do get to the source and get your Science correct, start with Moses and Genesis.... and have some sort of base for your decision making and science.. JESUS and SCIENCE get along... much better name or title or topic. Note how I always try to stay on topic and answer the question of the topic, even when you do not.... Its a habit, as the S************ are always looking for an ****** to ***** **.Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science. Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Davidjay writes:
Only if they make up their own definition of science. CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE I don't understand why fundamentalists don't just come right out and say that SCIENCE is wrong. Why pretend to get along with science while you're rejecting its conclusions? Just have the guts to say it's wrong.
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I don't understand why fundamentalists don't just come right out and say that SCIENCE is wrong. Because it is blatantly obvious that science works.
Why pretend to get along with science while you're rejecting its conclusions? Just have the guts to say it's wrong. That would let the cat out of the bad, and they'd be immediately ridiculed for being so stupid. Taking the round-about way gives them a delay so they have time where they can close their minds.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
New Cat's Eye writes:
They have no problem with doublethink in other areas.
Because it is blatantly obvious that science works.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Only if they make up their own definition of science. Actually Ringo the evolutionist, one of your own actually admitted that your religion, makes up definitions as they go, saying that a KIND is only a bible definition and they dont go by KINDS. This is why you cant debate them according to KINDS or SPECIES as they have no boundaries and are only cemetarians from their seminaries and religious institutions called Universities of Forced Learning. You evolutionists do change definitions whenever its needed by you. Its amazing but TRUE. This is why you think just changing a clad name by one letter, proves an evolutionary branch. Then you deny braqnching, then you say we came from chimps and apes, and then say all things are presently equally evolved as there is no present evolutionary branching. It is confusing as hell because the doctrine comes from there. Now you know.. IHS DavidEvolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science. Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
DJ writes: It is confusing as hell... Could it be you are deliberately confusing the things we're telling you? I can't believe that anyone could compose such posts unless they were deliberately misrepresenting what we post. If so, that would certainly be trolling, which is frowned upon here and most everywhere.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Some Christians get along with science just fine, and examples are all over the web.
quote: Nor do some Christians have a problem with an old earth it seems, nor the scientific methods that show the earth is old. There is more at SO: If some Christians have no problems with science and some Christians do have a problem with science, then the problem is not with the science, but with those Christians that have a problem. Again I point out the definition of delusion:
The belief that the earth is young is a false belief, it is not supported by the bible, the bible is not a science text (although it contains some scientific observations), nor an historical text (although it contains some historical observations). If some Christians have no problems with an old earth and some Christians do have a problem with an old earth, then the problem is not with the old earth evidence, but with those Christians that have a problem. If the universe is the creation of god, then the best homage you could do to that god is to learn to understand the reality of that universe as best you can, study as much science as you can to understand how "life, the universe and everything"(*) works. Enjoy (*) - Douglas Adams, Hitchhikers Guide series Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davidjay writes:
Yes, definitions do change as new information comes to light. You evolutionists do change definitions whenever its needed by you. But I said that creationists make up their own definition of SCIENCE, specifically, to try to shoehorn their misinterpretation of the Bible into it. That isn't a "change" in a definition; its a false definition. The real definition is still the same.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Evolutionists are strictly into semantics.. they have nothing else.
Their semantic classifications are a sheer joke and hilarious except some duped people believe them. Its where their research funding goes. Its all just a con, and letter manipulation into clades, and sets that supposedly originate our species and Kind. But they still dont know what clade we came from and just argue argue argue about their theology of theoriology of theories upon theories. This is why Razz and others theorise and want to bring attention to their latest break through theory. Maybe they can get some notoriety or research funds to further advance their theory, in their semantic disconnected brains.Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science. Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Davidjay writes:
RAZD doesn't theorize. The scientists who do the actual science are the ones who theorize. What RAZD does is try to show how the evidence fits the theory. This is why Razz and others theorise and want to bring attention to their latest break through theory. You should try to understand what the words mean before you whine about semantics.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Evolutionists/Atheists should get real and know biology instead of accepting demented non mathematical unscientific theories rather than observed phenomena and traits and abilties and instincts and behaviours..
Evolutionists reject genetics and know not genetics as they still think inbreeding (like Razz) is a proof of evolutionary change. They still think color change is evolutionary proof, they still think that the semantic change of one letter changes the clade setting of human ancestry. Evolutionist/atheism is for non scientific types to fantasize about their upbringing and their future offspring... even though they refuse to talk about human sexuality in an OPEN FORUM, or beneficial mutations in an OPEN FORUM, or maybe ten different other topics of interest to truth seekers in an OPEN FORUM. Neverthless truth always wins in the end, and in the middle and from the start. truth always defeats and obliterates the whining and complaints of those with lack of intelligence and a lack of design who trust luck and chance as their Saviour. IMHO DavidThanks to the webmasters HERE for allowing me to defeat atheists and evolutionists HERE, and show they have no math, no science backing them up and that they are totally dependant on semantics and luck and chance as their only support for their religion. Thanks again...
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Davidjay writes:
Indeed it does, which is why creationism is not taught in public schools.
Neverthless truth always wins in the end....
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