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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I predict he won't last much longer here. DavidJay is a zealot who proclaims victory with every post. When you are on that kind of 'winning streak' you might stick around for quite a while. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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It is our tradition here not to respond to the moderator when he gives us direction.
No excuses, no explanation. We can make any follow up remarks in the proper forums or directly to the moderator through PM. The moderator has been extremely patient with you so far... Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I've added a correction to that statement in the post I note that what is left once you start making truthful statements is a substantially weaker argument for accuracy. According to Ussher's chronology, the Exodus was about 850 years post flood. Shem, who is described as living to about 600 apparently did not overlap with Moses at all. Abraham did not write the Torah, and did not overlap with Moses. Your correction leaves a gaping hole in your argument. Moses recorded oral stories about the Flood and did not overlap with any witnesses. Moses connection with Adam and Eve is even more tenuous and to the days before the creation of man, of course there is no connection. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I would suggest that "start making truthful statements" would be more accurately phrased as "stop disagreeing with the Bible" Even with your correction, the result is a bit of a stretch. Moses authorship of the Torah is tradition, rather than something actually something stated in the Bible. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Then show me where my Hebrew words are incorrect and do not mean exactly what I said they mean. ICANT, we've had the discussion before. You have never been able to show that divide could not apply to separating folks rather than separating dirt. All you have been able to show is your own stubbornness on the issue. Further, your past discussions with arachno-guy have left the impression that you are not to be taken as an unquestioned expert on Hebrew.
Then show me where my Hebrew words are incorrect Beyond that, I know there is no semantic position that you won't take in lieu of providing evidence for your own translation. Nobody needs to take anything you say seriously until you provide some support for your own offerings. Your own personal word does not cut it. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I gave you a mechanism. God moved each continent to where they are in a nano second. No magic at all. No magic... What word would you use instead for moving a continent at greater than the speed of light... supernatural? Unearthly? The term I would use is "made up without any Biblical support". Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Are you going to blame the author for not knowing that the land mass was a lot different when it was in one place than it was when he was observing it? He would have been a Genius, as well as omniscient. Just what else did the Bible author get wrong? In fact, if the author was not omniscient, how would he know anything about the Flood? Or about creation. How far do you want to go with this? I'll take it one step further. If the writer was fallible, then why do you lean on word choice the way you do. Maybe the whole thing is just wrong. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Going it in a nano second is my opinion. The earth was divided some 4k years ago so He had to do it instantly. Why would it have to be instantly? Nothing in the Bible requires that. Of course you've already acknowledge making up a time of a nanosecond. Why could it not have been in two seconds? Or in an hour?
God gives no details of how He did it. Fortunately, God left you to fill in the details for us. Am I right?
God speaks and it is done. You must be the most evasive poster ever to scribe here. Apparently posting a direct answer to a question is some kind of losing proposition for you. Again, you tell us that the author of the Bible was not omniscient and your interpretation even assumes that the author was mistaken. Given that, and your propensity to make up the details, perhaps I should continue the discussion with people who at least have a reason for what they say. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Where in the context of those verses does it support you claim? Easily answered. Consider the third cited usage:
3. Psa 55:9 a man was praying for God to split the peoples tongue's[sic] So why would this be a literal splitting of the tongue and not a request to separate folks as was done in the Tower of Babel incident? This is not my argument, but the one given by AIG.
Did the Continents Split Apart in the Days of Peleg?
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quote: Given the paucity of usages in the text, with at least two of the four having context suggesting the same interpretation, your argument cannot be considered conclusive. And of course there is also the issue that we know that the Bible does tell us that the folks of earth were scattering according to language, so saying that David asking that the same thing be done to his detractors is at least reasonable. I would further add that the usage to mean splitting of a water course really does not serve your purpose very well. You don't need to split a land mass to divide a water course. I don't see any reason why a word that means to divide a people could not also be used to talking about dividing up a water course, and you have not made a case that it does not. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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