Human Intelligence

From another thread:

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And the majority of Christians agree with that. They believe a creator 'designed' water that way, or rather that he operated at an even more sophisticated level and designed the laws of physics so that the constituents of water would have the right properties to make waster than way.They also believe he didn't 'design' each individual species of life on earth. But just like the snowflakes the designed the grand stage for them to come into being on. He is, to them, a very sophisticated designer indeed.If that is your belief then science has nothing to say that you need worry about. It has no comment on the nature of that God.There are some who have a different belief. This belief would have to disagree with you and say that God 'designs' each and every living thing and each and every snowflake. They have a very unsophisticated God. They want scientific proof of their beliefs or they loose faith.

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You seem to think you're awfully smart, Skeptick. How about you answer the question inherent in this thread (that is if you think there was a flood). Fossil sorting for Simple

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Pretty smart. Not the smartest here mind you, but pretty smart. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. You seem to be going on about a number of things. These could take a lot of time to discuss. I'd like some evidence that you, too, are pretty smart and capable of discussing in good faith. The fossil sorting thread is a simpler case than most. Do you care to try to answer it? Do you think it can be answered?If you can show good debating habits there then, perhaps, it will be fun to discuss other, more lengthy, things.

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Is that an admission that the sorting problem is something you can't answer?I'd suggest that you stay out of the deep (well, sort of) philosophy questions till you work up to them.

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see answer in that thread

More and more evidence of the need for an LTD Primer forum.

Read over the last dozen or so posts on this thread.http://EvC Forum: Should Simple be Suspended -->EvC Forum: Should Simple be SuspendedI suspect you will have trouble with the need to use evidence and logic.

No, this is a misaprehension on a few counts:1) It implies there is progress. Evolution simply fits organisms to the current environment. It could be that the populations that left africa have been subject to pressures that make them smaller (less food abundance), weaker (more use of tools) and not as smart (less pressure dealing directly with predators). There is no automatic "better" with time.2)The greatest diversity is in Africa. If there is a "better" and "poorer" they could both well be there.3)The differences between human populations across the globe are very, very small. It doesn't seem likely there would be any that are really much "better" than any other.[This message has been edited by NosyNed, 02-12-2004]

Darwins social views aren't the point. You were asking about whether we are "more evolved" than Africans.And aside from that: One thing that struck Darwin on his Beagle voyage was how the Terra del Fuegans, although very "primative" were still the "same" as Europeans. That we were all one.

You should note Crash that Nebraska "man" was hardly a fraud. An error and a media hype yes.Since we don't, for sure know who pulled Piltdown man we can't say what their motivation was or what their particular beliefs were.There have, of course, been frauds. I'm not sure of any that have been demonstrated to be by someone in the field of paleontology or who was trying to fabricate evidence to support any particular viewpoint. Piltdown man wasn't much support for anything anyway.The recent one(s? ) have, of course, been by outsiders for money. I hope that now researchers are aware of the possibility it will be harder to pull off.

Crash is right it is off topic more than a bit but there are a couple of things to remember:The tooth didn't enter into the scopes trial at all.A pig's tooth is close enough to human's for honest error to be possible. Though I agree with Crash that too much carelessness is getting pretty close to a form of fraud.You are conjecturing about the newspaper article.

See Message 1 for a place to show some of the "rap sheet". It is a shame you didn't at least refer to one of the multiple sources to get this line started faster.

No, I don't know as a matter of fact.