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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
whatever, since you think there was a flood perhaps you could explain the fossil record based on it?
No one else seems to manage. If you can't then that is strong evidence that there was, in fact, no flood. If there is no flood you don't have to worry about making up an impossible ark design. Common sense isn't
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Facing into the current is an important principle, like like wind votex energies causing lift for flight, too separate but similar principles, the fish always face into the currents, with sea anchors reaching below the wave base, would be like the trout on the bottom, facing into an eddy, or into the current, the sea anchor would keep the ark from bouncing, anchored below the wave base, with the ballast, etc...
P.S. You need to think of the sea anchors like little fins keeping the arked boat facing into the currents, ballast reducing the wind water interface, vents allowing the moon pool to increase the interior air pressure to press the moon pool below the level the ark rode in the waves, the only requirement would be to allow for the moon pool level to fluctuate protecting it from the rest of the ark, but to allow the moon pool to act as a giant lung breathing in and out, excess water from the roof vents could be diverted to the moon pool, etc.... P.S. Millions of species, not that many kinds, etc...If ships in peril would use longer sea anchors, and use more than one, it might help the survival ratio, emergency sea rafts use sea anchors, just need to keep the raft from flipping over, by anchoring under the waves, etc... http://www.websportsman.com/...w.exe/new1216/tips.d2w/report Fish--Always Face into the Current -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When casting your spinnerbait or fly it is very important to understand the flow of the current and direction that the fish are facing. Fish almost always face into the current, therefore it is important to cast you line so that the fly or bait float naturally toward the direction that the fish are facing. This makes it much easier for the fish to see and strike at your bait. At times fish may face down stream as the water turns into an eddy (these are often great spots)-even so they are facing into the current and you can use this knowledge to float your line upstream into the eddy towards the front of the fish. Remember this simple tip and you will no doubt catch a few more that day.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
vents allowing the moon pool to increase the interior air pressure to press the moon pool below the level the ark rode in the waves Of all the lunatic things you have posted, this is the looniest.Vents would decrease the interior air pressure to ambient. Only hermetic sealing and pressurizing pumps would "press the moon pool below the level the ark rode in the waves". Any moon pool would have to have walls extending well above the waterline .. making it impossible to have much of anyting flow down into it. The rest is just repetition. Repeating idiotic claims doesn't make them true.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
JohF, I guess were going to have to design special vents that will allow more air to be drawn in than can be exhaled, so the moon pool level will drop, etc...
P.S. You could adjust these intake vents to maintain moonpool levels, you only need to increase the air pressure in the ark for moonpool levels to drop, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 02-04-2004]
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Loudmouth Inactive Member |
quote: One more whatever reply, just for the hell of it. Explain how you could poke a hole in a ballon and not have all of the air escape? By your theory, we could just poke another hole in the other side and magically more air will flow into the balloon than out. Sound ridiculous? Thats because it is. Better yet, get a rowboat and load it up with some of your friends. Now, take a shotgun and shoot a hole in the bottom of the boat. To stop from sinking, have all of your friends start blowing air at the bottom of the boat. Bingo, you stay afloat. Or do you? What it comes down to is that you would have to pressurize the ark and seal it off from the outside air. Otherwise, water would rush in just as it would with a rowboat with a hole in the bottom of it. The only other way around this is gigantic pontoons on the sides of the ark, but that would mean editing the Genesis account.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
You would have to have an engineer to design self sealing intake and exhaust vents, so in between the wave pulses the ark would be sealed, perhaps a simple spring that would open on vacuum, suction, and close after suction was lost(pressures would rise), the exhaust could be the reverse and by adjusting counter weights you could maintain the seal as the pressures in the ark increased, etc...
P.S. If the moon pool was isolated it wouldn't flood the ark, the ark was sealed with pitch inside and out, lowering the moonpool would just be convience, flushing the wastes away, etc...
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
whatever, there was no flood. Check out the Fossil sorting thread. It demonstrates (as do many other things) that the flood did not happen. No flood means no need for a ark.
Common sense isn't
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
You would have to have an engineer to design self sealing intake and exhaust vents,
And then Noah didn't have to pay for this engineering, 'cause he could just let his sorry sinful engineer butt drown......Cheapskate!
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I guess were going to have to design special vents that will allow more air to be drawn in than can be exhaled You're talking several atmospheres worth of presssure. Not practical even with today's technology.
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Randy Member (Idle past 6277 days) Posts: 420 From: Cincinnati OH USA Joined: |
quote:I understand air ventilation just fine. You seem to understand nothing and have produced post after post of what can only be called gibberish. I also understand heat radiation, atmospheric thermodynamics, steam pressure equalization and many other things that you are apparently clueless about. quote:This is just nonsense. Noah could not have built valves like this. Maybe you think he had diesel powered bilge pumps as well. I suppose that's no more ridiculous than Woodmorappe saying that he may have taken pelleted hay on board. quote:And how would you flush wastes through a sealed off moon pool? You are contradicting yourself yet again. Randy
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Randy, If Noah and his family were giants, they could of dumped the wastes in the top of the moon pool (the vortex energies developed in the moon pool would of diluted the wastes continually), the moonpool isn't that complicated, they had iron technologies, brass, they could of designed adequate simple vent valves only needing counter weights to seal enough to raise the pressure, if the moon pool started to rise, they would only need to take a few exhaust vents out of the loop, etc...
P.S. He didn't need disel pumps he had water energies, the whole point of this is could an ark be built, to deal with atmospheric problems, stress problems, ballast needs, waste removal problems, I've explained how its within the realms of science for a simple RAM pump, to drive water to the top of the ark, and how its possible to drive the moon pool down by increasing the atmospheric pressures, the bible says Noah had iron and brass technologies available in his day, he had 120 years to build the ark, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 02-04-2004]
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Check your meds.
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Randy Member (Idle past 6277 days) Posts: 420 From: Cincinnati OH USA Joined: |
Whatever, the level of total nonsense in your posts has reached a point that makes it useless to reply. Are you in fact a troll trying to make creationism look as bad as possible? It is hard for me to believe that anyone could be as ignorant of science and totally illogical as you are but then YECs never cease to amaze me.
Randy
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5622 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Randy, They probably dumped the waste in the top of the moon pool, just trying to give them running water and a self flushing waste disposal system, etc...
P.S. I'm not a YEC, though suppose you could call me a creationists of sorts, I feel God is sitting on his throne, and the Lord Jesus is sitting at his right hand, even the book of revelations, says that heaven and earth will pass away, when he that sits on the Great White Throne turns his face kjv Revelation 20:11, so thank God a thousand years is but a watch in the night, it almost makes one wonder if God is sitting on his throne because he can not turn his face from his creation, or all would be destroyed, Secrets of Enoch 33:5, etc... http://www.nazarene.net/enoch/2enoch01-68.htm#Chapter33 The Word says heaven and earth will pass away but his Words will not pass away, I just find it interesting that this book written pre-flood, survived, but just found that one verse quite interesting, in that it agrees before judgement day, heaven and earth will pass away, but his Words will never pass away, etc... [This message has been edited by whatever, 02-04-2004]
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
I've been suggesting Randy, that whatever be held to a narrower scope. That he answer the fossil sorting problem and show that there was a flood before going nuts on ark design. Otherwise he should be ignored.
Common sense isn't
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