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Faith
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Message 46 of 182 (842839)
11-08-2018 7:44 PM
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11-08-2018 7:30 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Oh good grief. Get a copy of the original and break it down yourself. Sheesh
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PaulK
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Message 47 of 182 (842845)
11-09-2018 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Faith
11-08-2018 7:42 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
quote:

He basically told Trump he shouldn't have called the "caravan" an invasion, preferring nicey nice euphemisms for people who have threatened to overrun our borders, and that he was "demonizing" these "migrants." Leftist spin on a Left-organized assault on Trump, the US, etc. He put a question mark after it but it was no question. There were two parts to this question so he really had all ready asked two when he wanted to continue the assault by insinuating that Trump must fear indictmens from further probes into Russion collusion now that the House has the numbers to do it. Trump even answered that after telling the quy to sit down and yield the mike. He fears nothing, the whole thing is a hoax and has been from the beginning.

I was going to investigate your accusations about Acosta, but since you’ve admitted here that they were baseless and Trump was in the wrong (by any reasonable standard) there is no need.

Acosta was being banned for being too good at his job.

Edited by PaulK, : Fix typo


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Tanypteryx
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Message 48 of 182 (842866)
11-09-2018 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Faith
11-08-2018 7:42 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
It is the most important task of the press to ask politicians questions so the public know what they are up to.

In this case that is a hollow excuse for near-criminal partisanship.

Trump acts guilty.

YOu are hallucinating. The man makes some silly and lamentable mistakes but he's pretty honest and straightforward.

Trump acts like he's special and above the law. He works for us.

More hallucinations. He's doing his best to stay on top of the constant barrage of lies and hate the Left throws at him, and to my mind doing a creditable enough job of a really difficult assignment.

You are completely delusional. I should have known better than trying to discuss anything with you.


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Message 49 of 182 (842870)
11-09-2018 2:24 PM
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11-08-2018 7:42 PM


Not Honest nor Straightforward
The man makes some silly and lamentable mistakes but he's pretty honest and straightforward.

So what am I to believe? Trump today:

“I didn’t speak to Matt Whitaker about” the Russia investigation, Trump told reporters this morning, “I don’t know Matt Whitaker. Matt Whitaker has a great reputation and that’s what I wanted.”

Trump to Fox News:

Last month, Trump told Fox News, “I know Matt Whitaker.”

http://nymag.com/...g-whitaker-who-he-met-a-dozen-times.html

Why would Trump brag about this great guy last month, put him in the spotlight by replacing Sessions with him, then back away from even knowing who he is after the media exposes this guy's skeleton-ridden closet?

He's a weasel, that's why. Weasel words. Weasel actions. Remember when Trump was a Putin fan, yucking it up in the green room before a TV appearance? Then later he had to admit they had never met in person before Trump's installation.

http://time.com/4108198/donald-trump-60-minutes-putin/

“I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes, we were stablemates,” he said, then he seemed to reference the show’s ratings. “We did well that night.”

The remark drew a rebuke from former HP head Carly Fiorina, who noted that she had met Putin “not in a green room for a show, but in a private meeting.”

But both Trump and Fiorina’s remarks weren’t entirely on the mark. Trump and Putin did not meet in a “green room” for the show, which does not have the typical off-stage waiting area for guests that a talk show has.

In fact, they weren’t even on the same continent.


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Faith
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Message 50 of 182 (842873)
11-09-2018 3:36 PM
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11-09-2018 12:10 AM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
You obviously misread something, or are pretending to misread something. Acosta was rude and impertinent and did not ask a legitimate question with any real journalistic intent, just threw typical Leftist accusations.
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Faith
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Message 51 of 182 (842874)
11-09-2018 3:39 PM
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11-09-2018 11:31 AM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
You are completely delusional. I should have known better than trying to discuss anything with you.

Your claim that Trump "acts guilty" is subjective. I answered you with my own subjective judgment that you must be hallucinating because I don't see him as acting guilty, and I don't have a clue what you think looks like acting guilty anyway. So now I'm delusional for not sharing your subjective opinion. This isn't exactly a "discussion" anyway.


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PaulK
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Message 52 of 182 (842875)
11-09-2018 3:41 PM
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11-09-2018 3:36 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
On the contrary, you made it obvious that Acosta was making legitimate points.
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Faith
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Message 53 of 182 (842876)
11-09-2018 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by ooh-child
11-09-2018 2:24 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
The man makes some silly and lamentable mistakes but he's pretty honest and straightforward.

So what am I to believe? Trump today:

“I didn’t speak to Matt Whitaker about” the Russia investigation, Trump told reporters this morning, “I don’t know Matt Whitaker. Matt Whitaker has a great reputation and that’s what I wanted.”

Trump to Fox News:

Last month, Trump told Fox News, “I know Matt Whitaker.”

http://nymag.com/...g-whitaker-who-he-met-a-dozen-times.html

Why would Trump brag about this great guy last month, put him in the spotlight by replacing Sessions with him, then back away from even knowing who he is after the media exposes this guy's skeleton-ridden closet?

You guys make mountains out of molehills with this kind of thing. Trump has a (bad) habit of speaking off the cuff in the moment. He's not lying, he's just rsponding from whatever context occurs to him in that moment. When he says he "knows" Whitaker he doesn't mean he knows him beyond having met him and having a good impression of him. He may have a particular encounter in mind that gave him that impression although he saw the guy on other occasions which didn't make much of a blip on his radar screen. Then later he knows more and he responds from that new context just as he did from the earlier context, again not lying, just saying what he thinks at the moment. Who knows but this stuff is not worth all the effort you're putting into it. So he heard Whitaker has a good reputation, later he heard something different; in each case he speaks from his current position. He should be more precise but this is just a personality glitch the Left likes to magnify into something bigger than it is.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Trump didn't REPLACE Sessions with Whitaker. Whitaker was merely in line to be acting AG when the seat was vacated. This is a time-limited interim position until a replacement is chosen. He hasn't been chosen and may not be chosen.

Yes Trump gets facts wrong. They are minor facts and my guess is that he gets them wrong because he responds from the context in his mind at the moment, as I say above, which is sloppy at least and a bad habit, but still he shouldn't get them wrong. He needs someone to get across to him how this hurts his image, how the Left will pounce on it and not give him a break although they'd give a Leftist a break on such things. He needs someone to poke him in the ribs every time he opens his mouth.

But this is not about the level of basic credibility I and his supporters see in him.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Faith
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Message 54 of 182 (842877)
11-09-2018 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by PaulK
11-09-2018 3:41 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Those are not legitimate journalistic points. They are Leftist accusations and of course a Leftist would like them because Leftists don't live in the world where people are allowed to have different points of view: whatever political correctness says is truth, and they'll even bang down a person's door for disagreeing with them, yes what they did to Tucker Carlson yesterday. This is the new fascism. They are the new brownshirts. And Acosta is just a verbal brownshirt.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 55 of 182 (842879)
11-09-2018 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Faith
11-09-2018 4:00 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
quote:

Those are not legitimate journalistic points.

Why not ?

quote:

They are Leftist accusations and of course a Leftist would like them because Leftists don't live in the world where people are allowed to have different points of view: whatever political correctness says is truth, and they'll even bang down a person's door for disagreeing with them,

In other words you want him banned from press conferences because he has a point of view that you want suppressed.

quote:

yes what they did to Tucker Carlson yesterday. This is the new fascism. They are the new brownshirts. And Acosta is just a verbal brownshirt.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.


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ooh-child
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Message 56 of 182 (842881)
11-09-2018 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Faith
11-09-2018 3:54 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Trump didn't REPLACE Sessions with Whitaker. Whitaker was merely in line to be acting AG when the seat was vacated. This is a time-limited interim position until a replacement is chosen. He hasn't been chosen and may not be chosen.

You are wrong, as usual. Whitaker was not 'in line' as you put it. Would it be so hard for you to research this for yourself? Chief of Staff is not next in line. Don't make stuff up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_Attorney_General


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Faith
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Message 57 of 182 (842882)
11-09-2018 4:21 PM
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11-09-2018 4:16 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
I'm taking this from radio pundits I've been listening to lately. Are you also disputing that he's merely a temporary acting AG?

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 58 of 182 (842884)
11-09-2018 4:35 PM
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11-09-2018 4:21 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
I'm taking this from radio pundits I've been listening to lately.

That's your first mistake. Turn off the radio (or tune it to music) and read a newspaper!

Are you also disputing that he's merely a temporary acting AG?

No.


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Message 59 of 182 (842889)
11-09-2018 4:54 PM
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11-09-2018 4:00 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Faith writes:

And Acosta is just a verbal brownshirt.

Isn't Acosta allowed to have a point of view that is different from yours?


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Message 60 of 182 (842892)
11-09-2018 4:57 PM
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11-09-2018 4:21 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Faith writes:

I'm taking this from radio pundits . . .

Mistake number 1. They are entertainers, not journalists.

Are you also disputing that he's merely a temporary acting AG?

There was already a confirmed DoJ official that was next in line: Rosenstein. As an analogy, if the President leaves office for whatever reason the Congress can't pick someone and put them in the White House ahead of the Vice President.


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