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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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vimesey Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Every day, I become more convinced that Trump and/or his team have read and embraced this masterwork on propaganda:
Propaganda must always address itself to the broad masses of the people. (...) All propaganda must be presented in a popular form and must fix its intellectual level so as not to be above the heads of the least intellectual of those to whom it is directed. (...) The art of propaganda consists precisely in being able to awaken the imagination of the public through an appeal to their feelings, in finding the appropriate psychological form that will arrest the attention and appeal to the hearts of the national masses. The broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly wavering between one idea and another. Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side. (...) The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward. Twitter could not be a more perfectly adapted delivery system for Trumps propaganda if it tried.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Yes, we know what they claimed.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Faith writes: Nationalism is bad for more than one reason, but the most important is that it subordinates other country's interests to one's own. That's what Hitler did. Which is one of the reasons why "nationalism" is not the best word for what Trump means,... On the contrary, nationalism is precisely the right word for what Trump means. We know this because of his tariffs, his dropping out of the Paris Climate Agreement, his unilateral abandonment of the Iran treaty, his treatment of allies, his disparagement of NATO, his "America First" slogan, and his constant rhetoric.
Putting American interests first does not subordinate the interests of other nations in that way at all, in fact American interests have to be strong for us to be of any help to other nations. All nations have strong interests. Where Trump's leadership differs from that of other western nations is that he subordinates their interests to those of the US, failing to recognize that America is part of a global community. We know this because of everything I said before. And when he states that he's an anti-globalist he means he's against working with other countries for the benefit of all. That's why his cries of "I'm a nationalist" and "America First" are leading to America Alone.
Trump may be ignorant of some things... Trump's not a detail kind of guy, and so he is ignorant of anything detailed, like the history of nationalism, or the history of anything, including the US.
...and should be straightened out about them,... It is not within him. He accepts only his own counsel. He accepts no blame, only credit (which he usually has to bestow upon himself, bragging inappropriately the way a young child brags), and he never blames himself. There is no "The buck stops here" with Trump - it's all someone else's fault. That's why Priebus, Tillerson, Bannon, Spicer, Omarosa, and Sessions lost their jobs, and it's why Nielsen and Kelly are about to lose theirs.
...but he is not a supporter of Nazism or white nationalism. He's not a supporter of Nazism, but he is a supporter of white nationalism - there's some very fine people there. The white nationalists sure think he's a supporter. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
You posted a video without comment. We already know the allegations of Diamond and Silk. They've been debunked. They're using claimed victimhood as a form of promotion, which maybe they need, I don't know, but I've never heard of them.
--Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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quote: http://thinkprogress.org/...censorship-hoax-a764012eed5b/amp Think Progress is, of course, unabashedly liberal. But the article is based on hard numbers. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1053 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
What the hell did I just watch? Was that some TV presenters being interviewed in Congress about their social media accounts?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
And it seems to be largely due to the local residents, not the migrants.
...about 300 local residents gathered by the encampment to demand the migrants leave the upscale Playas de Tijuana neighborhood and go to the facility.
After midnight, residents assaulted journalists, injuring at least three, according to reporters on the scene
By 8:30 p.m., hundreds of residents and migrants had congregated by the beach, with local residents demanding the immigrants leave the public space at the beach.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Message 100 of 175 (843017) 11-11-2018 5:46 PM Reply to: Message 62 by Taq 11-09-2018 4:59 PM Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her? So you are saying that Acosta isn't allowed to have a view that differs from Trump's views? Acosta isn't allowed to ask questions of the President? You guys are getting awfully good at this sort of twisting of what a person says and means. Last night I found this hearing of the conservative duo Diamond and Silk in which their interrogator did exactly this sort of twisting to accuse them of lying, which I wanted to post as an example of the genre as it were. I tried to find it this morning but I don't know why I can't. I can read on my own computer but can't write so I have to come to this public computer for a couple hours every day and you'd think whatever I could find on my computer I could find on this one but I can't. I can read on my own computer but can't write. I am on my own computer now. It's hard to copy and paste a whole message letter by letter. wikipedia: Diamond and Silk - Wikipedia
Hardaway and Richardson, appearing on Fox & Friends, were critical of both the far-right and far-left groups taking part in the event. Hardaway criticized Neo-Nazi groups and the Ku Klux Klan for "spewing hate and ... creating violence" declaring "all of them should be condemned and denounced. Period". In the same interview, she also said she does not "... like Black Lives Matter and Antifa." Me too. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
True.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Did you read that? The caravan wasn't violent. The residents were.
Of course, Jesus would have beaten the crap out of them too. He hated brown people.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
That's the official opinion. Yet to be tested.
Even "hooray for torture" John Yoo disagrees.
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