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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Kinds are biblical as is creation...your blather aside.
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
We are supposed to know what kinds you are talking about? Mankind for example was here from the start. No way to deny that is what the bible teaches. I would like to get on topic here also. Too bad that falsifying a young universe by SN1987a was a concept/claim that is already defeated here. Dead.
Wave the white flag and close the thread. Speaking of dead has anyone heard from the thread originator here?? Is he OK? Edited by creation, : No reason given. Edited by creation, : No reason given.
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
I am not really looking at people here, just ideas and models and arguments. If ideas are revealed to be false, people can change ideas, regardless of the beliefs and ideas they once had...one hopes.
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Of course God set it up so man could see stars. They are made for us to see!
Seeing a star does not tell us it's size or distance or true nature. Yes we have info in incoming light that tells us that it seems to have certain elements in it. What else stars may have that we cannot detect/see we do not know. What time and space there are like we can only guess at and what man has done is impose the realities of earth and area out there also. If something takes 4 minutes to happen here, in the light we have here from there...well, man assumed that it also took the same time there. Edited by creation, : No reason given.
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Science tries to fit all things into it's little set of beliefs and rules.
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Adam did not likely see all the universe. The visible stars, if I recall are only in the thousands. But the machinery of the stars and universe was for us, I would think. Perhaps one thing they somehow do is regulate time for us!? Seasons and times. Who knows?
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Of course, to the extent that regardless of all this God's word remains true. Now if some believer thinks it happened one way, maybe they will learn it was actually different than that. I, for example stated my explorations into the origins and creation/evolution issues assuming that creation science so called of the day was correct. I now realize the flood year did not do it all, and deposit all layers...etc. ..But there was a flood!
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
The more one thinks that origin science used evidence rather than beliefs, that less chance they have of not being confused!
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
The volume of stupid papers does not matter to stars. The way little man determines distances matters. To determine distances to stars time must be equal all the way to the star. You get that much?
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Whatever light does it does here where it streams in from there. Here in our space and time. Merely seeing a spectra of some elements it contains does not give us a picture of what it is like out there, what time and space are like, or what else might also exist that we cannot see.
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Well, look at a clock. There may be little cogs going round...moving. If one does not know what one is looking at, it may appear as random movement. Same idea with stars. They move...there are some things orbiting/going round other things out there...etc. If it was all created as the bible states from cover to cover, then it is logical to assume that there are purposes and reasons for things that poor little man may not be aware of, though he see some movement!
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
You get that time must be equal all the way to stars to know distances...and even more?
Or you like to type words that you thought sounded smart?
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
There is nothing about the precision movements that tells you how creation works. Nor is there anything in those movements that tell us it was not created.
You are in no position to call the bible fiction. Science cannot say yay or nay, either way. It mentions a fair bit about stars also. What stars will do suddenly in the near future for example...go out! It mentions a star that guided some men to a specific house! It associates stars with the spiritual, which is more than poor science can do! Etc.
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
We see the light from that SN here. Whatever working it does is here. How much time was involved getting here cannot be known by science! Not unless you prove time exists and exists the same there also, as it is here.
Likewise distances are not known. Any use of trigonometry has to use at least one line that is in unknown time and space! Whether we use the rings out there and draw lines to them, or whether we use a slice of time and space here and draw lines to a star!
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
So you think and say. However why would we assume no time exists in the solar system?? Science doesn't even know what time is! For you to take a huge slice of space here, and claim it involves no time means that you are saying time does not exist here!
If you could ever get over that, you would still be checkmated since we still have space out there to deal with!
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