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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, as you seem to know a lot about cosmology. no more than a standard education should give one interested in learning about "life, the universe, and everything" to quote D. Adams unencumbered. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
But at the same time the general flavor of your posts strikes me as sarcastic, and a sort of junior high type of fogginess, and tounge in cheek -would be cleverness, written more for a giggling friend than who it is posted for.
How could you get that impression when I keep asking you questions about serious problems with your concepts and you are the one avoiding the anwers with hand waving and epicycles of flavours on top of processes undefined. the fogginess is all in your bank, and it's your turn to show some cash. Or try contesting the Hindu Model ...no problems with that one has been presented yet. enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
By the way I'm closing the thread very soon, from my point anyhow What, leave without answering the problems that have shot holes in the concept from the start and are still unresolved? Allow me to recap (again) where we stand on your concept ("AC"), while also making reference to the superior Hindu Model ("HM") and how it solves the problems -- there are testable differences in what they predict:
Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
so if anyone can really shoot the concept down, fine. If not, thanks for the imput. Your concept is the black night of the holy grail monty python movie and again for reference testable differences in versions:
Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
physical light we have now. What about the spirit plane light?
If there is no detectable difference it must obey the same rules as all other light, including the same problems with the age horizon process flavour modulation. If there is a detectable difference then what is it? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Would that obey our light spectrum ways?
One would expect it to if it was light. again -- is there a detectable difference or no difference? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Since it is not here now, that might be hard to say.
well why bring it up then? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Some christian science folks have questioned the distant redshift interpretation.
correction: some christian folks have questioned ... OR some scientists have questioned ... if the questioning is based on a presupposition of faith it is not scientific if the questioning is based on science the faith is irrelevant (it could be Hindu ...) and we haven't yet discussed what the horizon process would do with red shift levels ... got any ideas? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
What if everything got shifted from the previous mix, so it ended up the way it is?
previous mix? is this another wrinkle in the epicycle game? do you mean before the separation when the speed of light was instantaneous? instantaneous light cannot red shift, mathematically impossible. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Since we don't know much ag=bout either the other light, or the process of seperation, how could we say???
Hardly a basis for science if you don't even have observations to base your concepts on. Looks like you need to do some work. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
What we could say was the time would be very different. logic failure ... logic failure ... undistributed conclusion we could as easily say that time is green, for it is not based on any part of any preceeding argument. I suggest a remedial course in basic logic (assuming you have had a course in logic ... ) enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
any word on the biblical justification on the 12 days? That was just a number we used but I could come up with some. 12 months, 12 deciples, etc. Time to lose the process ... we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
affected by that stretching to be very significantly different from 'normal' light I think the idea was that the light that was there to start with was not what we would call normal. What we see now is the affected bit. you think the idea was ... ? you have an age horizon in your concept whether you recognize it or not -- the limit beyond which light cannot have travelled in the time since the separation occured, 6200 lt-yrs according to your first posts on this concept. for light to reach here from beyond that horizon means that it is not normal compared to the light inside that horizon, no matter how you cut it, that dog don't hunt we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Otherwise it would not have the signitures in it that show it came from the star or galaxy.
You still have a problem with inside age horizon light being different from outside age horizon light, so in effect this does not solve your problems in trying to fit a 13.7 billion year old universe into a 6200 year old {myth \ story \ belief \ faith}. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
saw it, sorry for the inconvenience. wilco.
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