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xongsmith
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Message 1 of 10 (833577)
05-23-2018 5:09 PM


I'm wondering if we can make a list of reputable scientists to counter the people that post a request to give them so-called "respected scientist" sources. Someone poses a question like this:

You can say this cause your qualified? So give me a some example of current scientists whom you deem worthy.

...and i'd like to hit him with a list of 800 evolutionary scientists.

Here was his video post on facebook, claiming 2 reputable "scientists":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr5j2hXEMM0&feature=youtu.be

Todd Wood, PhD??? PhD of what?

This would be an EvC list similar to the Refuted-1000-Times list.


- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Thread copied here from the List of reputable scientists thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
    
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05-23-2018 9:12 PM
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Project Steve?

Led, of course, by Professor Steve S. Steve. The S stands for...


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Message 5 of 10 (833738)
05-26-2018 12:22 AM
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Here's some.

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"Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin."

--- Albanian Academy of Sciences; National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina; Australian Academy of Science; Austrian Academy of Sciences; Bangladesh Academy of Sciences; The Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium; Academy of Sciences and Arts of Bosnia and Herzegovina; Brazilian Academy of Sciences; Bulgarian Academy of Sciences; The Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada; Academia Chilena de Ciencias; Chinese Academy of Sciences; Academia Sinica, China, Taiwan; Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences; Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences; Cuban Academy of Sciences; Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic; Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters; Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt; Académie des Sciences, France; Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities; The Academy of Athens, Greece; Hungarian Academy of Sciences; Indian National Science Academy; Indonesian Academy of Sciences; Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran; Royal Irish Academy; Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities; Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy; Science Council of Japan; Kenya National Academy of Sciences; National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic; Latvian Academy of Sciences; Lithuanian Academy of Sciences; Macedonian Academy of Sciences and Arts; Academia Mexicana de Ciencias; Mongolian Academy of Sciences; Academy of the Kingdom of Morocco; The Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences; Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand; Nigerian Academy of Sciences; Pakistan Academy of Sciences; Palestine Academy for Science and Technology; Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru; National Academy of Science and Technology, The Philippines; Polish Academy of Sciences; Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal; Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts; Singapore National Academy of Sciences; Slovak Academy of Sciences; Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts; Academy of Science of South Africa; Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain; National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka; Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences; Council of the Swiss Scientific Academies; Academy of Sciences, Republic of Tajikistan; Turkish Academy of Sciences; The Uganda National Academy of Sciences; The Royal Society, UK; US National Academy of Sciences; Uzbekistan Academy of Sciences; Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela; Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences; The Caribbean Academy of Sciences; African Academy of Sciences; The Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS); The Executive Board of the International Council for Science (ICSU).

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"The evolutionary history of organisms has been as extensively tested and as thoroughly corroborated as any biological concept."

--- Nobel Laureates Luis W. Alvarez, Carl D. Anderson, Christian B. Anfinsen, Julius Axelrod, David Baltimore, John Bardeen, Paul Berg, Hans A. Bethe, Konrad Bloch, Nicolaas Bloembergen, Michael S. Brown, Herbert C. Brown, Melvin Calvin, S. Chandrasekhar, Leon N. Cooper, Allan Cormack, Andre Cournand, Francis Crick, Renato Dulbecco, Leo Esaki, Val L. Fitch, William A. Fowler, Murray Gell-Mann, Ivar Giaever, Walter Gilbert, Donald A. Glaser, Sheldon Lee Glashow, Joseph L. Goldstein, Roger Guillemin, Roald Hoffmann, Robert Hofstadter, Robert W. Holley, David H. Hubel, Charles B. Huggins, H. Gobind Khorana, Arthur Kornberg, Polykarp Kusch, Willis E. Lamb, Jr., William Lipscomb, Salvador E. Luria, Barbara McClintock, Bruce Merrifield, Robert S. Mulliken, Daniel Nathans, Marshall Nirenberg, John H. Northrop, Severo Ochoa, George E. Palade, Linus Pauling, Arno A. Penzias, Edward M. Purcell, Isidor I. Rabi, Burton Richter, Frederick Robbins, J. Robert Schrieffer, Glenn T. Seaborg, Emilio Segre, Hamilton O. Smith, George D. Snell, Roger Sperry, Henry Taube, Howard M. Temin, Samuel C. C. Ting, Charles H. Townes, James D. Watson, Steven Weinberg, Thomas H. Weller, Eugene P. Wigner, Kenneth G. Wilson, Robert W. Wilson, Rosalyn Yalow, Chen Ning Yang.

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"Genetics and evolution are two very closely interwoven disciplines. In fact, evolution might be summarized as population genetics over time. [...] Without evolutionary theory, we would be forced to completely discard much of what we understand about fields such as genetics, botany, zoology, paleontology, and anthropology."

--- Genetics Society of America

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The fossil record is the primary factual evidence for evolution in times past, and evolution is well documented by further evidence from other scientific disciplines, including comparative anatomy, biogeography, genetics, molecular biology, and studies of viral and bacterial diseases."

--- The Paleontological Society

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"The fossil record of vertebrates unequivocally supports the hypothesis that vertebrates have evolved through time, from their first records in the early Paleozoic Era about 500 million years ago to the great diversity we see in the world today. The hypothesis has been strengthened by so many independent observations of fossil sequences that it has come to be regarded as a confirmed fact, as certain as the drift of continents through time or the lawful operation of gravity."

--- Society of Vertebrate Paleontology

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"The crowning achievement of paleontology has been the demonstration, from the history of life, of the validity of the evolutionary theory [...] The fossil record contains many well-documented examples of the transition from one species into another, as well as the origin of new physical features."

--- American Geological Institute.

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"Evolutionary theory ranks with Einstein's theory of relativity as one of modern science's most robust, generally accepted, thoroughly tested and broadly applicable concepts. From the standpoint of science, there is no controversy."

--- Louise Lamphere, President of the American Anthropological Association; Mary Pat Matheson, President of the American Assn of Botanical Gardens and Arboreta; Eugenie Scott, President of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists; Robert Milkey, Executive Officer of the American Astronomical Society; Barbara Joe Hoshiazaki, President of the American Fern Society; Oliver A. Ryder, President of the American Genetic Association; Larry Woodfork, President of the American Geological Institute; Marcia McNutt, President of the American Geophysical Union; Judith S. Weis, President of the American Institute of Biological Sciences; Arvind K.N. Nandedkar, President of the American Institute of Chemists; Robert H. Fakundiny, President of the American Institute of Professional Geologists; Hyman Bass, President of the American Mathematical Society; Ronald D. McPherson, Executive Director of the American Meteorological Society; John W. Fitzpatrick, President of the American Ornithologists' Union; George Trilling, President of the American Physical Society; Martin Frank, Executive Director of the American Physiological Society; Steven Slack, President of the American Phytopathological Society; Raymond D. Fowler, Chief Executive Officer American Psychological Association; Alan Kraut, Executive Director of the American Psychological Society; Catherine E. Rudder, Executive Director of the American Political Science Association; Robert D. Wells, President of the American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology; Abigail Salyers, President of the American Society for Microbiology; Brooks Burr, President of the American Society of Ichthylogists & Herpetologists; Thomas H. Kunz, President of the American Society of Mammalogists; Mary Anne Holmes, President of the Association for Women Geoscientists; Linda H. Mantel, President of the Association for Women in Science; Ronald F. Abler, Executive Director of the Association of American Geographers; Vicki Cowart, President of the Association of American State Geologists; Nils Hasselmo, President of the Association of American Universities; Thomas A. Davis, President of the Assn. of College & University Biology Educators; Richard Jones, President of the Association of Earth Science Editors; Rex Upp, President of the Association of Engineering Geologists; Robert R. Haynes, President of the Association of Southeastern Biologists; Kenneth R. Ludwig, Director of the Berkeley Geochronology Center; Rodger Bybee, Executive Director of the Biological Sciences Curriculum Study; Mary Dicky Barkley, President of the Biophysical Society; Judy Jernstedt, President of the Botanical Society of America; Ken Atkins, Secretary of the Burlington-Edison Cmte. for Science Education; Austin Dacey, Director of the Center for Inquiry Institute; Blair F. Jones, President of the Clay Minerals Society; Barbara Forrest, President of the Citizens for the Advancement of Science Education; Timothy Moy, President of the Coalition for Excellence in Science and Math Education; K. Elaine Hoagland, National Executive Officer Council on Undergraduate Research; David A. Sleper, President of the Crop Science Society of America; Steve Culver, President of the Cushman Foundation for Foraminiferal Research; Pamela Matson, President of the Ecological Society of America; Larry L. Larson, President of the Entomological Society of America; Royce Engstrom, Chair of the Board of Directors of the EPSCoR Foundation; Robert R. Rich, President of the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology; Stephen W. Porges, President of the Federation of Behavioral, Psychological and Cognitive Sciences; Roger D. Masters, President of the Foundation for Neuroscience and Society; Kevin S. Cummings, President of the Freshwater Mollusk Conservation Society; Sharon Mosher, President of the Geological Society of America; Dennis J. Richardson, President of the Helminthological Society of Washington; Aaron M. Bauer, President of the Herpetologists' League; William Perrotti, President of the Human Anatomy & Physiology Society; Lorna G. Moore, President of the Human Biology Association; Don Johanson, Director of the Institute of Human Origins; Harry McDonald, President of the Kansas Association of Biology Teachers; Steve Lopes, President of the Kansas Citizens For Science; Margaret W. Reynolds, Executive Director of the Linguistic Society of America; Robert T. Pennock, President of the Michigan Citizens for Science; Cornelis "Kase" Klein,President of the Mineralogical Society of America; Ann Lumsden, President of the National Association of Biology Teachers; Darryl Wilkins, President of the National Association for Black Geologists & Geophysicists; Steven C. Semken, President of the National Association of Geoscience Teachers; Kevin Padian, President of the National Center for Science Education; Tom Ervin, President of the National Earth Science Teachers Association; Gerald Wheeler, Executive Director of the National Science Teachers Association; Meredith Lane, President of the Natural Science Collections Alliance; Cathleen May, President of the Newkirk Engler & May Foundation; Dave Thomas, President of the New Mexicans for Science and Reason; Marshall Berman, President (elect) of the New Mexico Academy of Science; Connie J. Manson, President of the Northwest Geological Society; Lydia Villa-Komaroff, Vice Pres. for Research Northwestern University; Gary S. Hartshorn, President of the Organization for Tropical Studies; Warren Allmon, Director of the Paleontological Research Institution; Patricia Kelley, President of the Paleontological Society; Henry R. Owen, Director of Phi Sigma: The Biological Sciences Honor Society; Charles Yarish, President of the Phycological Society of America; Barbara J. Moore, President and CEO of Shape Up America!; Robert L. Kelly, President of the Society for American Archaeology; Richard Wilk, President of the Society for Economic Anthropology; Marvalee Wake, President of the Society for Integrative and Comparative Biology; Gilbert Strang, Past-Pres. & Science Policy Chair of the Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics; Prasanta K. Mukhopadhyay, President of the Society for Organic Petrology; Howard E. Harper, Executive Director of the Society for Sedimentary Geology; Nick Barton, President of the Society for the Study of Evolution; Deborah Sacrey, President of the Society of Independent Professional Earth Scientists; J.D. Hughes, President of the Society of Petroleum Evaluation Engineers; Lea K. Bleyman, President of the Society of Protozoologists; Elizabeth Kellogg, President of the Society of Systematic Biologists; David L. Eaton, President of the Society of Toxicology; Richard Stuckey, President of the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology; Pat White, Executive Director of the Triangle Coalition for Science and Technology Education; Richard A. Anthes, President of the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research.


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mike the wiz
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Message 6 of 10 (833754)
05-26-2018 9:08 AM
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Diomedes, what does your diagram represent other than propaganda?

For example if I am a creationist and I don't use, "bad logic" or I don't use quote-mining, then if that is not my "creationist method", then wouldn't your diagram be false?

So when you say, "it really is that simple", are you aware for example that "sound logic" would tell us that this only represents a false disjunction called a false dichotomy, sometimes known as a limited choice fallacy?

As creationist, that is not my, "method", and it seems to me only people with low IQs would use such a method, and only people with low IQs would argue that it is as "simple" as this.

As for your "scientific method" where is your testing? For example do you accept phlogiston? It seems you still could if your method was as, "simple" as this. I don't know about you but it seems to me there is repeatable, testable elements to science, this is why I know that it doesn't matter if we test an F1 car speeding round a corner at 100mph, 1 million times, because the downforce generated by the wings will enable it to hold the corner. This is why it doesn't matter if a bus corners at the same speed, 1 million times, we know that linear momentum will have it topple every time because centripetal force won't be sufficient to hold it. This is why we could seal a rat in a dome 1 million times to find out if indeed air is, "exotic", or look at germs under the microscope 1 million times.

Please tell me, can you show 1 million times how scales evolve into feathers?

ADMIN: why wasn't Diomedes reprimanded for his mischief? I was when I posted to links and information with a summary of evolution.

Edited by mike the wiz, : No reason given.


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Diomedes
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Message 7 of 10 (833761)
05-26-2018 10:54 AM
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05-26-2018 9:08 AM


Diomedes, what does your diagram represent other than propaganda?

It's actually referred to as 'humor'. Hence the smiley face.

For example if I am a creationist and I don't use, "bad logic" or I don't use quote-mining, then if that is not my "creationist method", then wouldn't your diagram be false?

If you are a creationist, you are by definition, using 'bad logic'. That is simple to discern by the fact that you are starting with your conclusion and working backwards. That is the reverse of intellectual logic and the scientific method.

So when you say, "it really is that simple", are you aware for example that "sound logic" would tell us that this only represents a false disjunction called a false dichotomy, sometimes known as a limited choice fallacy?

It isn't a false dichotomy since the debate is predicated between two camps: evolution versus creationism. If you would like to inject a third option, please feel free to do so.

As for your "scientific method" where is your testing?

See every research paper, experiment and subsequent publication on the topic of evolution. I would provide the links, but the deluge would likely overwhelm the EVC servers.

Please tell me, can you show 1 million times how scales evolve into feathers?

I have to show you a 'million times'? Is that how many times is required for you to absorb the information?

If it helps, here is a link:

http://people.eku.edu/ritchisong/feather_evolution.htm

That search took me all of ten seconds to perform by the way.

And if you want to expand your knowledge further, you can also see how both feathers and hair came from scales. Here another link you can access:

http://www.sciencemag.org/...rd-feathers-came-reptile-scales

To help you along, here are a few key paragraphs:

quote:
Hair in mammals and feathers in birds have long been known to develop from placodes—patches of thickened skin in embryos that are created by special cells known as columnar cells. These patches had not been seen in reptile embryos, leading scientists to believe that scales were unrelated to hair and feathers. Because birds and mammals evolved from separate lineages, scientists had two hypotheses: Placodes evolved two separate yet identical times in birds and mammals, respectively, or reptiles lost them over time, whereas birds and mammals didn't.

quote:
Using scanning electron microscopes to view the tiny embryos, the scientists were able to see hundreds of placodes. Each was located where a scale eventually grew. But the structures—basically just small, raised bumps—appear sporadically in place and time during development, Milinkovitch says. "You have to look at the right place at the right time." Reptiles with two copies of the EDA mutation did not develop placodes at all, leading to a lack of scales, whereas reptiles with one copy of the mutation developed scales of smaller size.

And you can also note that the scientists still believe more research is needed. But I didn't see any mention in the article that they think the root cause was actually an invisible super being.

ADMIN: why wasn't Diomedes reprimanded for his mischief? I was when I posted to links and information with a summary of evolution.

Well, I can't answer that one for you. I will defer to the admins on that one. But if you would prefer a more pertinent image that I can share, how about this one?

Oh, and you're welcome.


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Message 8 of 10 (833762)
05-26-2018 11:09 AM
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For example do you accept phlogiston? It seems you still could if your method was as, "simple" as this.

The observations do not fit. Some things gain mass when burned


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05-26-2018 1:00 PM
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05-26-2018 9:08 AM


For example if I am a creationist and I don't use, "bad logic"

Well, that's a big if.

You yourself, as we know, employ hilariously bad illogic. If you can show us a creationist who is capable of rigorous thought, then you can press for the diagram to be amended. Until then, you are like someone objecting to a cladogram by saying "what if there was a mammal with feathers?" Well, there isn't.


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Message 10 of 10 (833785)
05-26-2018 1:12 PM
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05-26-2018 9:08 AM


mike the wiz writes:

As for your "scientific method" where is your testing?


Maybe you missed the part where it says, "Make observations" --> "Do all of them fit?" That's testing.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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