Question for god believers.

Christians beleive that god is everywhere, right?
so does that mean that we people are part of him too?
And if god resides in everything, does he reside in nothingness as well?

That doesn't seem to be a very meaningful question. Maybe I just need some more explanation of what you are getting at?

Thread moved here from the Big Bang and Cosmology forum.I'll leave the title alone for now, but I'm thinking of changing it from "Question for god believers." to something like "Is God everywhere, and is everthing part of God?".Smartalec_3 (and everyone) - Please try to choose a descriptive and defining title for your new topics. And try to choose the appropriate forum, to place them in.Thanks,
Adminnemooseus[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 11-03-2003]

Sorry, I'm just trying to get an exact perspective from Christians of exactly their point-of-view of God. Do they believe that we are all part of God, as well as our consciences? If so, does that mean that our minds make up part of the conscience of God?

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'Do they believe that we are all part of God, as well as our consciences? If so, does that mean that our minds make up part of the conscience of God?'

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Well, Jesus said if you harm a person you harm God. He talks of this when he speaks about the son of man seperating the sheep from the goats. He says such things as if you feed the poor and love your neighbour, you fed and loved God. God is the tree we are the branches (I think that's right). That is all I can tell you , to the best of my knowledge as a Christian. As for any guesswork on where God is or isn't I only know he said 'I am' in Exodus, anything else I would be guessing at.[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 11-03-2003]

Im not a christian and cant even give you an 'official' jewish answer but here some thoughts based on some things i read once:
Since G-d by definition is limitless [infinite] and all imposing, he is everywhere, even "in" all matter, energy, and hence, you and me. Are we then part of him? You might as well have asked: Is a rock part of him? or maybe the real question is -is any part of the physcial universe part of him or is he somehow 'separate' from the matter and energy he created? As i said i dont think he is separate as by definition he is limitless and all encompassing...so then are we part of Him?....here i think the answer is yes and no. Yes, we are part of him, since he is everywhere, but no, we are not, since we can make our own decisions- we are 'independent'. It seems that creation ex nihilo, something from nothing, is not the most unbelievable point of creation [no offense to the 'infinite universe worshippers' out there] but the fact that G-d somehow both 'retracted' his presence in the physical universe to the point where it seems to be without him and to the point where we can not 'feel' him and [i know its a run-on] to the point where we have FREE choice - makes us both part of him and independent. i know it seems like a conflict but i think thats the right answer. I await the resident genuises to take apart my logic....
as for: 'And if god resides in everything, does he reside in nothingness as well? " Could you rephrase -what is 'nothingess' for
G-d? surely you dont mean space, time, energy or matter? I'm not understanding this part of the question.

"Do they believe that we are all part of God, as well as our consciences?"The spirit of man (conscience) is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly. (Proverbs 20:27)("Conscience" is mentioned only in NT-KJV and not in the OT)1Ti 1:5-6 states: "Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
... From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling.Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.Many Christians speculate (myself) that the sinful aspects of us are merely tolerated by God (awaiting eternal judgement in hell or in the Christ-Lamb's vicarious sufferings).It may be correct to state that Jesus/God (Himself) became sin:
(2Co 5:21) For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.Thus, in Him all things consist. All this world's evil(s) would be in the 'Cursed Lamb's visage', as per:
Joh 1:29 Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.AndIsa 52:14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men....As if all the evil of the world was beaten (clobbered) into this Christ...that in Him "All things consist".Again:(2Tim 2:20) But in a great house (i.e., God's Body) there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[This message has been edited by Philip, 11-04-2003]