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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Hi, as you all know it's september and it's time to get back to school and for me it's time to argue... in sunday school. Now my teacher tells us that the big bang is very similar to the account of Genesis 1. I definitely disagree. Put the theory and Genesis side by side and they are definitely different. Now I am open to all opinions on this.
Are they similar, why or why not? Please go into depth on your replies on this question I am posing. To either refute that they are or to agree that they are. Thanks, Looking forward to all of your intelligent replies.-chris ------------------ "I AM THE MESSENJAH" contact me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com [This message has been edited by messenjaH, 09-18-2003] [This message has been edited by messenjaH, 09-18-2003]
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Brian Member (Idle past 4989 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi M,
I think it would be a good start to the topic if you told us why you 'definately disagree'? What is it YOU see wrong when they are placed 'side by side ?' Is it only the creation story in Genesis 1 you are concerned with? Brian.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
This teacher also states the universe* (better?) is as old as evolution suggests around 16 billion years old give or take. Um 6 days vs. billions of years Id vs. Toe, etc... etc......
Discuss on all of your opinions on why or why not. Thanks ------------------"I AM THE MESSENJAH" contact me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com [This message has been edited by messenjaH, 09-18-2003]
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Brian Member (Idle past 4989 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi, M,
Your teacher says the world is 16 billion years old? I was under the impression that our sun is only about 5 billion years old. Do you mean that the universe is 16 billion years old? Brian
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Messenjah, maybe you haven't been around long enough yet. But
"evolution" isn't what gives us an age for the earth, sun or universe. That is something you need to get straight as part of understanding what is really going on. It is physics and cosmology which give those ages and they are pretty far from biology and evolution.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4989 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi Ned,
It also looks as if Messenjah's 'teacher' hasn't really done his homework either, unless Messenjah is not relaying his 'teacher's' words accurately. Maybe a good place for Messenjah to start would be to state how both camps arrive at their 'starting dates'? He already says that the big bang was 16 billion years ago, although he doesn't say how this figure is arrived at. He doen't mention the date of creation at all and this also means he hasn't mentioned how that date is arrived at either. Brian.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Yeah thats what I meant.
------------------"I AM THE MESSENJAH" contact me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Uh the big bang's date you can get anywhere this belief is discussed. As for the creation timeline, all the genologies + 2000 years, give or take. Will you please discuss my original question or are you just going to pound me for minor details?
------------------"I AM THE MESSENJAH" contact me for any reason at: messenjahjr@yahoo.com
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
THIS IS NOT ABOUT DATES.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4989 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Um 6 days vs. billions of years What is it about then exactly? Is it cosmology, ancient Hebrew cosmology versus modern day science? In order to discuss exactly what you want ot discuss, don't you think it would be a good idea to explain a bit clearer what it is you wish to discuss? Now you started the thread by saying that you 'definately disagree' with your teacher. In order for you to 'definately disagree' suggests that you have looked into the topic in great detail, I mean how else could you 'definately disagree'? So what is it that you disagree with, or do you simply want everyone else to do your homework for you? Brian.
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Hi MessenjaH,
Discussions usually develop only when people have different ideas or opinions. Since the evolutionists here are pretty much in agreement about the Big Bang and the age of the universe, a discussion among us on this topic is unlikely to spring up. Someone is going have to submit a contrary opinion. Since you opened the thread, that someone would be you, or perhaps another Creationist that you recruit. --Percy
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
"Discussions usually develop only when people have different ideas or opinions."
Exactly, I just wanted to see how other ppl felt on the question I originally posed. [This message has been edited by messenjaH, 09-20-2003]
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Whether you agree with me or not, since no discussion is developing in this thread you might want to consider the possibility that you're going about this the wrong way.
--Percy
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
Personally I don't think the big bang is anything more than big guesswork. There, an opinion wasn't that hard guys!
[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 09-20-2003]
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Brian Member (Idle past 4989 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi Mike,
There, an opinion wasn't that hard guys! I don't think this is exactly what messanjah was hoping to get in response to his request. Brian
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