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Message 8 of 37 (501143)
03-04-2009 4:59 PM

Reply to: Message 7 by Theodoric
03-04-2009 4:41 PM

Off topic, time for new thread

the current regime just wants to destroy the 2nd. with that gone they can do what ever they want.

What is your reasoning for saying this? Has Obama made any comments about ending gun ownership?

He's trying to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. Take a look at this section. He even wants to make it permanent

Plus he's from Illinois, which has the worse gun laws of any state. Yikes!

But all this is off-topic. There hasn't been a gun thread here in a long time. We should get another one going. Care to start it? I'll participate.

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Message 10 of 37 (501151)
03-04-2009 5:24 PM

Reply to: Message 9 by Theodoric
03-04-2009 5:03 PM

Re: Off topic, time for new thread

That is far from destroying the 2nd amendment. We have had assault weapons bans before and they didn't destroy the 2nd amendment.

But how far is it from wanting to...

No. I have no desire to argue this topic.

Ah, oh well. Gun topics are, like, my next favorite to evolution and cosmology ones.

Just so you know. I am a gun owner and a hunter.

I just have a handgun.

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Message 21 of 37 (501427)
03-06-2009 8:41 AM

Reply to: Message 20 by FliesOnly
03-06-2009 7:25 AM

Re: To get somewhat back on topic

These "militia newbies" were/are sooooooooo afraid that President Obama is going take away their guns that they felt the need to join a militia to prevent that from happening.

Yet, throughout the entire cluster fuck of the Bush administration you heard nothing...not a peep...from the assorted militia groups around this Country. As we now know, Bush was responsible for perhaps the most dangerous, anti-American, take away your guns, your right to privacy, you rights to a lawyer or to see a Judge, Administration in the history of this Country. And not a fucking peep from the militias.

I think its because they don't feel imediatly threatened by it. The prolly feel something like: "meh, that's not going to happen to me"

Seriously, where are these assholes now, when we could really them? Where are these defenders of the Constitution, now that we see how our Constitution was being shredded? For Christ’s sake, the Bush Administration claims in these memos that they had the right to us the U.S. Military against its own citizens!! And yet we still hear not a peep from militia groups. WTF?! Could it be that these militias have gone from true Patriots to nothing more than spineless fear mongering Republican hacks?

I guess they don't have a big deal with the constitution is being shredded with regard to others, ('specially dem terrorists), but when they feel like its directly affecting them they get all up in arms.

I mean, hey, I don’t expect to hear form Right Wing Conservative Republicans. We have seen time and time again that they will never speak poorly of Bush et al. They think he’s a god.

Its no different than the other side.

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Message 24 of 37 (501467)
03-06-2009 11:57 AM

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03-06-2009 11:29 AM

Re: To get somewhat back on topic

These so-called militias are pretty much nothing more than a bunch of gun freaks that have two primary goals.

I dunno, I wouldn't group them all together. There's probably a gradient of types of militias with various goals.

One, not to pay taxes

I don't know anything about that.

Two, to own any conceivable weapon they want.

Most of the gun freaks I know realize that Destructive Devices are distinguished from Firearms and do not have goals to own Destructive Devices but do have goals to have the right to any Firearm they want.

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Its no different than the other side.

No, not really. I get tired of hearing this.

I meant the 'god' part. Obama is the biggest cult of personality I have seen in my lifetime.

What is your stance on this issue Catholic Scientist?

Apathy.

Do you feel that a special prosecutor needs to be appointed to investigate these allegations?

I have no idea.

Do you feel that these memos spell out some of the scariest shit you've ever seen from a sitting administration?

No. It doesn't scare me.

Or are you OK with what was said?

Hrm, I dunno. I can conceive a situation where the government would need to do what was said but I don't know if our current situation counts as one.

Do you agree with the Bush administration that, for instance, using the U.S. Military against its own citizens is fine and dandy?

Didn't that already happen in the Civil War?

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