On this day, let us all be proud of America

I'll bet that I'm the first member of this EvC board who voted for a black US presidential candidate. I did so back in 1996. I would have been proud and pleased if Allan Keys who also ran in '08 became the first black American president, not so much because of his race but because of what he stood for, his knowledge and his qualifications.Keys was both qualified and principled to conserve the American way as per the founders and the Constitution which they established.Unlike Keys, Obama, having the most liberal voting record in Congress has carried a lot of baggage relative to his past to the highest office in the land and likely the world. This thread is not to go into that but Obama has always been stealth in that his record in state and federal government shows that he often votes "present." Why? So that he could remain stealth as to who he was and how he would govern as president. Relatively few Americans know who this man really is or what he has consistently stood for. Most are not aware of the significance of who his mentors and associates have been. For nubies, there are already threads on the Obama baggage.The only ones who know who Obama is are us who pay attention to his life and his record. Most haven't a either haven't a clue, voted race or don't care (just do it).Subbie, do you really expect folks to be proud to have a new black president even if they didn't agree with anything he stands for? May God help us if race trumps the principles and qualifications in electing the President of the US of A.Subbie, do you think for a minute that if Allan Keys were inaugurated president today that there would have been the crowed and hoopla we have witnessed today? Would you be doing this thread if that it was Allan Keys or Clarence Thomas?No, Subbie. I'm not proud, but terrorist organizations like Hammas and most Muslims, Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam here in America, the black supremacists, and the Communist Party who endorsed him are proud and jubilant along with you and so many other dupes who supported him. His native? land, Kenya, who's tyrannic leader Obama supported is proud with you, so much so that a national holiday has been declared for this event.Having said the above, I will support the president's policies when I can and oppose them when I can't support them. Sorry to poor cold water on your thread, but I'm not gullible enough to be jubilant.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

1. Hawaii's law does not allow for actual birth cirtificates to be made public. Only the family may have access to them or allow for them to be made public. Stealth Obama has yet to allow this or anything else such as his college records which might put this question to rest;
2. When Obama was enrolled in Indonesian schools that nation required Indonesian citizenship for enrollment. Did Obama's father change his and his son's membership to Indonesia to conform to the law? Unknown.
http://obamaisnotacitizen.com/

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

That's a strawman. My argument had nothing to do with the success of the Keys campaign, but the fact that I voted for a black man and that I would also be willing to vote for Clarence Thomas, had he run.The evidence is in the archives as to why I do not celebrate the presidency of Obama and none of it has a whit to do with race.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Where is the logic or reason that I would vote for and support Keys, a black, if I'm a subtle racist, not to mention that I sent him $20 for his campaign? How subtle would that be??I know I'm not racist. I have two Chinese adopted grand daughters whom I dearly love and two adopted Mexican/American grandsons whom I dearly love.While in the US Air Force back in the early 1950s before the King days, in the office where I worked I highly regarded my black supervisor and the squadron adjutant who's office was next door to mine but while in training I despised the black knucklehead Tech Sargent in charge of our training contingent.Race had nothing to do with anything. One black was a despicable knucklehead and the other two blacks were commendable gentlemen.I have given reasons for not rejoicing over Obama. What more do you expect?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Whatever, Judge Jones. No worry. God, the just judge, will get me, for sure, if I'm lying. Him I fear.You're a dreamer who plays judge like you play Dr.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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....And I'm beginning to question your intelligence and fair mindedness, DA.My knowledge of what is scientific reality concerning the races and what is observed and whether I practice racism is apples and oranges. I assumed sensible and intelligent folks could figure that out.Whether one is a creationist or evolutionist the fact is that the races have been separated/segregated since history has been recorded for one reason or another and that is the natural phenomenon of reality.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

The theme of our new president's campaign and inauguration was the remaking of America.Perhaps America should be reminded that that was the theme of the Bolshevik Revolution for Europe and the theme of Hitler for Germany, which combined effected well over a hundred million violent deaths and devastation to the continent by their own governments. I might add that Fidel Castro remade Cuba to enslave, impoverish and oppress the bourgeois/middle class common folk ever since.I am not euphoric because if the remaking of America is relative to the ideals of this new president's mentors and close associates over his lifetime, what is there to be euphoric for? Why should I join the euphoria of black militant/supremest Nation Of Islam, the Communist Party, terrorist/mentor Bill Ayers, radical cleric Jeremiah Wright and Islamic terrorists who, unlike the millions of dupes who drank the nicely dyed palatable appearing Obama cool aid, understand what President Obama means relative to his ultimate goal of remaking America. The aforementioned examples are not the types who go along to get along. No, not by a long shot. They fully understand that their dreams, goals and agenda for America may now come to fruition. Edited by Buzsaw, : Add title

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Way to go, Distortionist Mod. Buz's opinions towards minorities is tolerance, friendliness and compatibility.Buz's knowledge of history, science and reality relative to race is quite another thing. I thought EvC was where facts are important. All I've done is cited facts. The facts are that whether evolutionist or ID creationist the implication of the facts is that there was some significant reason that races and languages originated in the first place. The facts are that the races and languages have been segregated throughout human history. The facts are that when integration is attempted, trouble brews.What race are the most voluminous, bigoted and boisterous today in America? It's the black racists like the black supremacist and the black militant organizations who feed the fires of revolution, sedition and hatred in the churches, the prisons and other segments of society. The rapid expansion of the Nation of Islam is a classic example, whose agent, Farrakhan was awarded high honors in Obama's church of choice for he, his wife and his children of 20 years.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Hi Grizz. Thanks very much for your fair mindedness. I pray God's blessings on you for that.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Over the years? Uh, what were the other election occasions?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Nonsense? You mean you can refute the Wright/Bill Ayers relationship to Obama? How about opening a thread on that to do so if you're serious and want to support your nonsense.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I believe that if the African American votes for McCain and Obama were switched so that all Obama got went to McCain and vise versa, the election would have went to McCain. I haven't done the math, however. What do you think? Edited by Buzsaw, : Got in a hurry. Fixed quotes.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Hi Taz. If you base the alleged racist charge relative to your good parents as I've been rated here, perhaps you're dealing them a bad rap. I don't know. As I've stated I would celebrate over an Allan Keys or Clarence Thomas presidency. Would your parents have any problem with a Clarence Thomas or Allan Keyes president?Tell you're good parents that Buzsaw is joining them in prayers for their prodical son. Be careful, son of praying parents. If their god, Jehovah, the Biblical god is real, he hears their prayers and works in manifold ways to effect their concerns.
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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

1. In fact a whole lot of black racists did so. It reminds me of OJ's black jury. The only thing that mattered to the majority of black (racist) voters, including conservatives like Armstrong Williams and former Congressman, J C Watts. Colin Powell was not a conservative but he switched parties to vote black. Unlike the alleged racism of Buzsaw, the racism of these blacks is for real.2. Speaking of the black supremacists: You mean like the church of choice for our stealth president, Obama and his family, where he hung out, their mentors, and which President Obama supported liberally with his money for 20 long years. The church in bed with black supremacists and awarded their black supremacist leader, Farrakhan the highest honors.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Be reminded that way back during the primaries I warned that Obama would undermine the War On Terror. I had no idea he would blatantly and suddenly end warring with terrorists as one of his first actions as Commander In Chief of the War On Terror. Of course, my thinking was that Obama is still in bed with his religion of birth, Islam.No surprise to me. Ye koolaid drinking lubbers of Obama, can't you connect the dots as to why Hammas and the other Jihadists supported stealth Obama. Edited by Buzsaw, : embolden for emphasis

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.