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Author Topic:   Schrafinator and others fire mike
mike the wiz
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Message 1 of 15 (217063)
06-15-2005 8:05 AM


Schrafinator writes:
Mike, this is my last post to you.
I have lost all respect for you, I am sad to say. You are not worth my time anymore, because I have answered all of these questions for you at least a dozen times. You clearly DO NOT WANT to understand anything.
You are smarter, much smarter than this, but you have chosen willful ignorance over enlightenment.
I am really very sad.
Goodbye, and have a nice life wrapped up in your ignorance.
I don't understand this. Irishrockhound also said this to me. I would like to know why people get so annoyed and feel this way with a creationist if none-belief is a dispassionate lack of belief in God. Surely people get offended if I don't believe in evolution.
Shraff, please explain more about why you think this way about me all of a sudden.
Are you firing mike like you fire God when he doesn't perform your will?

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mike the wiz
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Message 3 of 15 (217083)
06-15-2005 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by nator
06-15-2005 8:25 AM


You have been here, on this board for a long time, just like I have, and you have been asking very nearly the same questions you came here with, over and over again.
Give an example.
Your premise is that I'm asking questions, so I can have an answer and then convert. Mine is that I am adressing problems which haven't been adequately explained or refuted, IMHO.
There are fact-based, scientific answers to these questions, and these are provided to you, along with corrections of your factual and logical errors.
If you think there are answers, fair enough. However, I have made no logical errors, and nobody has corrected me, even if they think they have. I invite anyone to try, they haven't. All they say is "along with corrections of your factual and logical errors". Show me some.
I am tired of wasting my time on someone who has so little respect for education and knowledge that he would spit on it repeatedly like you have.
How have I done this? I believe homo floresiensis exists just like you do, and oxygen. I just don't believe in the theories, which used to be no big deal back in the day. Popular scientific theories usually prove all wrong anyway. Remember Einstein? Light bending by gravity etc. What a crank, or ahem, what a genius.
At some point, you usually get cornered and start lashing out and either get suspended or quit for a while, and then the cycle begins again.
I was only suspended once when I chose to be.
My behaviour is the same as ever. You seem to be so very upset with me, and even hate me with a great intolerance.
I am simply fed up. There is absolutely no point in talking to you if you refuse to listen to reason or take in facts.
I take in everything, I'm just not obliged to believe everything if I have a better answer.

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Message 5 of 15 (217095)
06-15-2005 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Sylas
06-15-2005 9:59 AM


mike the wiz writes:
if you benefit enough from a big brain and you're an ape then you won't survive.
do survive long, then you don't benefit from a big brain.(contrapositive)
NS is necesssity based. Don't you see that if it was a necessity to have a big brain and you didn't have one, you would not survive. All can then be said is to affirming the antecedent (modus ponens) or deny the consequent (modus tollens.
I don't think the problem is a big brain or apes would be dead. I think degenerative conditions of the planet, means some animals can't survive. Numbers will be a factor, and circumstances.
On my terms Sylas, how is my argument wrong?
If you disagree with my argument, that's fair enough.
But no one has corrected me so far, as my argument is valid. Hating my character won't change that people. Majority Opinion has too much emphasis at this site. Jar is on my back even because he dislikes that I am creo, yet he knows I am bad within the rules.
Sylas, I apreciate your post, atleast you can say; "You remain a useful member of the board and a colleague I'd be glad to buy a drink if our paths were to cross."
You have to realise that a lot of intelligent intellects like your good self, don't get humour for some reason. Dan Carroll, I think, gets it.
Do you really think I am self-important or do you think I'm laughing my tits off? Read, "mike's ego trip" for laughs. Like Dan, I put humour first a lot of the time. Afterall, it's fun to laugh and everybody here is so darn serious.
If you don't think it's comedy then there's no hope for you. Saying "irrefutable" is for laughs, because it gets such a rise out of people and I think "blimey, that really wound them up and it's so obviously a jest, how perculiar".
This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 06-15-2005 10:17 AM

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mike the wiz
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Message 7 of 15 (217147)
06-15-2005 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Sylas
06-15-2005 11:07 AM


You see Sylas, when it comes down to it, you guys are a lot of talk.
You know very well that my implication, that I shown in my previous post, is unrefuted.
Best just to deal with the substance
What you don't realize, is that there is no substance in saying "getting your head handed to you".
Listen, if a majority thinks I've been refuted, that the consensus is so, that itself doesn't refute anything I have to say.
If you "think I am outclassed" that's all well and dandy but it doesn't mean I am.
Post 22 refutes Natural selection. NS is not an abitrary selector, it is defined as necessity based. A fast runner will not die, a slower one will. If an ape would benefit from a big brain then only by necessity it will only get one according to NS. Either it needs one therefore it will die, or it doesn't need to evolve.
Continue to say I am outclassed. Like Spock before me, I have no ego to bruise.
The truth is Sylas, you and others don't like what I say, and appear to have no sufficient answer to it. Now how is it possible a fool of God is wiser than men?
This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 06-15-2005 12:21 PM

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mike the wiz
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Message 14 of 15 (217201)
06-15-2005 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Phat
06-15-2005 2:11 PM


Re: Take yo heads out yo asses, you're up yourselves
ADDENDUM OF IRREFUTABLE TRUTH.
No Phatboy, you've chosen your side by accusing me of ranting. Like everyone else, you couldn't possibly agree with the one pissing against the wind. Why not learn what I am saying instead? No offense Phatboy, I'm not taking sides or anything. If people are irritated, that's their problem, as I am here to debate, not irritate.
If people get angry - they shouldn't be getting emotionally involved. Oh sure, no limits to stupidity Percy, that's dandy, now kindly refute the logic in message 6 please. If only people could back up their insults with some action.
Like others, the powers of admin I hope are not turning you over to self-righteousness Phatboy. You don't actually think being an admin changes anything do you? Where's that guy who used to debate for the cause rather than rolling over for 'em?
Phatboy, you are on their side, if you didn't know that by now it's about time you did. You have chosen the worldites, and I have not. Unlike me and Buz, you have turned into Jar number 2, and I don't know why people are so sucked in by honour of men. So I am sad to see you are with them on this. The bible says to seek honour of God, and that's what I've done. You have chosen honor from evos and admins. Now you're punching mike and saying "oh mike, I'm not punching you, I don't take sides".
Sylas had an emotional outburst in messages 6. Message 7 wasn't a rant/. Like others before me used to say, an add hominem attack isn't a refutation.
Saying, "haha, we're so darn great, and everyone agrees you're refuted" logically doesn't mean squat. And everybody doesn't even get what I mean by that basic logic, LOL. basics!!!
The nazis backed Hitler, but that didn't make their majority right. Therefore it is TOTALLY logically IRRELEVANT if people call me stupid, and say I've "had my head handed to me" in debate. it proves nothing.
An actual refuation would refute me.
This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 06-15-2005 03:02 PM

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