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lyx2no
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Message 91 of 131 (471345)
06-16-2008 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Taz
06-16-2008 2:45 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
Who is Noone, and why is he a monster?

Kindly
There is a spider by the water pipe.

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Message 92 of 131 (471360)
06-16-2008 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by lyx2no
06-16-2008 8:10 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
lyx2no writes:
Who is Noone, and why is he a monster?
Access denied
I have personal sources that say Peter Noone is a satan worshipper and baby eater.
But anyway, point taken.

I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't put my head that far up my ass.

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lyx2no
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Message 93 of 131 (471392)
06-16-2008 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Taz
06-16-2008 11:23 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
Just to make sure you did get my point: I'm completely on your side. I think everyone should use their time writing to practicing writing. Use the right words spelled correctly in the proper order. That you happened to be the one who left the space out of "no one" is unfortunate. It would have better illustrated the possibility of misinterpretation of ambiguous English had pelican committed the error. As it is, it will be interpreted as "nobody is perfect." No one is perfect, but does that somehow excuse the need to try?
More in line with the OT:
I am dyslexic. I do not have the advantage of the first and last letters being in the right place, nor even words being in the right order. Yet, I can read. It wasn't easy and a little practice goes a long way. Let me offer a few (very few) pieces of expertise:
  1. the context is simple. "See Dcik run." hardly gives one a challenge relative to "Panderiestil catdande Senstoven was ubiltantamsky an escatogitil hoppyotrait." (peek) is a bit more difficult.
  2. The scrambled word doesn't form something with similarities to a real word or another word.
  3. There are lots of 1, 2 ,3 and 4 letter words. I is amazing how much "and" "the" and the various "to be's" are clues to context.
  4. Punctuation isn't equally neglected.
  5. You care.
pelican, unless you believe yourself to be endlessly fascinating, pay extra attention to #5.
Edited by lyx2no, : Contained an ambiguous construction.

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pelican
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Message 94 of 131 (471469)
06-17-2008 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by lyx2no
06-16-2008 2:23 PM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
No one is perfect, but does that somehow excuse the need to try?
That wasn't the point of the OP.
pelican, unless you believe yourself to be endlessly fascinating, pay extra attention to #5.
What the ??????????????????

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Larni
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Message 95 of 131 (471472)
06-17-2008 3:57 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by pelican
06-17-2008 1:52 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
Pelican writes:
Many posters on this forum have been 'corrected' and 'judged' and 'ignored' because of incorrect spelling.
My bold.
Who has been ignored?

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pelican
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Message 96 of 131 (471481)
06-17-2008 5:25 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Larni
06-17-2008 3:57 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
I suppose it's more of a 'what' that is ignored. Full posts but mainly the whole point of the posts.

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lyx2no
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Message 97 of 131 (471495)
06-17-2008 7:49 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by pelican
06-17-2008 1:52 AM


"what is the big problem?"
pelican writes:
I truly don't think correct spelling is of great concern when it can clearly be understood, maybe with a little patience and effort.
You don't make your reader do the work you should be doing. Unless you think the reader cares more about what you have to say than you do.
According to the OP:
. what is the big problem?
was the whole point.
Edited by lyx2no, : Spelling

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pelican
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Message 98 of 131 (471498)
06-17-2008 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by lyx2no
06-17-2008 7:49 AM


Re: "what is the big problem?"
OP : However, if the word is recognizable and in context, what is the big problem?
What is the big problem when the word is recognizable and in context?

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lyx2no
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Message 99 of 131 (471503)
06-17-2008 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by pelican
06-17-2008 8:22 AM


Re: "what is the big problem?"
What is the big problem when the word is recognizable and in context?
The word is always recognizable and in context to the writer. That is why the writer should not be the judge of such things. And then I guess it isn't that important if all one has to say is "See Dick run." or "Sally has a ball."; though, it is hard to make that endlessly fascinating. But if one has a complex idea to get across one can't be certain how the audience is going to interpret ambiguities.

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There is a spider by the water pipe.

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Larni
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Message 100 of 131 (471637)
06-17-2008 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by pelican
06-17-2008 5:25 AM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
pelican writes:
I suppose it's more of a 'what' that is ignored. Full posts but mainly the whole point of the posts.
Or not understood and subsequently ignored because of crappy spelling and grammer.

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pelican
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Message 101 of 131 (471684)
06-17-2008 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Larni
06-17-2008 4:45 PM


Re: Comprehending incorrect spelling
Or not understood and subsequently ignored because of crappy spelling and grammer.
Larni, I don't get your point because you've spelled Grammer wrong.

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Larni
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Message 102 of 131 (471766)
06-18-2008 4:21 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by pelican
06-17-2008 6:00 PM


You got me.
Ouch and touche.
As I have made a mistake in spelling I now throw my lot in with you: is is acceptable to be careless with spelling and grammar.
Back to reality.
pelican writes:
However, if the word is recognizable and in context, what is the big problem?
Repeated spelling and grammar mistakes correlate in our heads with a lack of credibility. This is the same effect as Hill Billy correlating in his head long words with arrogance.
If you want a technical reason look up the fundemental attribution error.
It ain't fair or right but that's how our brains are wired to work: some say by a god. Go figure what he was thinking.
Edited by Larni, : Inevitable spelling mistakes.

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pelican
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Message 103 of 131 (471778)
06-18-2008 6:58 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by Larni
06-18-2008 4:21 AM


Re: You got me.
I didn't mean to get you. I meant that because I focussed on your honest mistake, I ignored the point you were making. What was it again?
Repeated spelling and grammar mistakes correlate in our heads with a lack of credibility.
Ahh good judgement! I will go by your rules and judge your post as not credible because bloody hell, Larni, you've spelled fundamental wrong. Gee I'm exasperated.
If you want a technical reason look up the fundemental attribution error.
That is very naughty.
By the way the definition of 'fundy attributes' sounds like a mental disorder.

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Larni
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Message 104 of 131 (471780)
06-18-2008 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by pelican
06-18-2008 6:58 AM


Re: You got me.
Aargh!
Hoist by my own petard!
I guess I'm not the poster boy for this arguement, eh?
The fundamental attribution error has nothing to do with fundamentalism: it is social psychology.

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pelican
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Message 105 of 131 (471783)
06-18-2008 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Larni
06-18-2008 7:26 AM


Re: You got me.
The fundamental attribution error has nothing to do with fundamentalism: it is social psychology.
Yeh I know. I looked it up to check my spelling. ha ha
I think it is a perfect social psychological condition that supports my OP. Ta mate!

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