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PMOC
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Message 82 of 519 (471411)
06-16-2008 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Hyroglyphx
06-16-2008 5:16 PM


Re: Remediation in English
I've been following a bit...
Now, if you were to ask a paedophile how long he's had these sexual feelings towards pre-pubscent boys or girls, he may say that he's always "felt" that way. So if I ask you how you know that is either true or untrue, or whether or not its a justification, you saying that I'm equivocating is the last thing I wanna hear. Because for starters, you aren't even answering a legitimate question, and secondly you are manipulating what I'm saying.
I'm afraid you ARE equivocating.
Is there any difference between a sanctioned boxing match and someone beating you senseless on the street?
One scenario involves two CONSENSUAL ADULTS - you wilfully ignore this point time and time again - and the other does not. When you purposely conflate the two you are implying that both are deviant behaviors.
There is absolutely nothing - save for a mythical book and your heebie jeebies - that separates the consenual act of sex amongst same sex partners and the same act between opposite partners.

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PMOC
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Message 92 of 519 (471500)
06-17-2008 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Fosdick
06-16-2008 8:08 PM


Re: "Absolutely nothing?
Did I have to explicitly state that it is between different gender pairs? I thought that was pretty easy to grasp from the wording of my statement. I really hope you're not intending to go down the "all sex is for procreation" road...
What Nem and others don't seem to grasp is that there is a difference between "minority behavior" and "deviant behavior".
Premarital abstinence in America is a minority behavior, but under Nems characterization/equivocations, I could very easily call it a deviant behavior. Would that be a fair description - abstinence as deviant?
My problem is when he takes two consensual acts and compares one of them - and specifically/purposefully not the other - to a non consensual act that is not an analog for either of them and then takes issue with accusations of equivocation.
Edited by PMOC, : No reason given.

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PMOC
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Message 128 of 519 (471801)
06-18-2008 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 124 by Hyroglyphx
06-18-2008 1:00 AM


Re: Remediation in English
That isn't the point of the exercise. The point is understanding why it is this way to begin with. By understanding it, you will in turn be able to understand the rationale of people who find homosexual marriage objectionable.
That wasnt the point either. The point was taking two analogous scenarios and comparing one, but not the other, to a non analog...which was pretty much the whole crux of your argument.
I don't care about your moral distinctions. I can freely discard them, just as you freely discard mine.

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PMOC
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Message 349 of 519 (472978)
06-26-2008 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 348 by Buzsaw
06-26-2008 9:21 AM


Jerry Falwell lives!

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