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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, if a professor told a creationist that the Noachian Flood was a fairytale, should the Creationist sue them?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Really? How so? I mean, how does the Flood being an instructive morality tale and the ToE being true destroy, say:
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (NIV, Mark 12:28-31). ? Or, how does realizing that unicorns don't exist, rabbits don't chew cud, and bats are not birds make the following invalid:
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" (Matthew 22:36-38) ?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I'm sorry, but you didn't answer my specific questions.
I'd like to know the specific, detailed reasoning why you believe the following Boble verses are invalidated if alleles in populations change over time: I mean, how does the Flood being an instructive morality tale and the ToE being true destroy, say:
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (NIV, Mark 12:28-31). Specifically, how is this passage invalidated if alleles in populations change over time, or if the flood was a myth? Are you really saying that you cannot treat others as you would want to be treated, if the flood story was mythical, or if alleles change in populations over time? Or, how does realizing that unicorns don't exist, rabbits don't chew cud, and bats are not birds make the following invalid:
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" (Matthew 22:36-38) Specifically, how is the above passage invalidated if we now understand that unicorns don't exist, rabbits do not chew cud, and bats are not birds? Are you really saying that if unicorns do not exist, you can't love God? Edited by nator, : No reason given.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Er, racism and the idea that other groups are inferior was present long, long, long before Darwin came along. We see it right there in the Bible, in fact. Plenty of slavery, racism, hatred of women, hatred of gentiles, bloodthirsty genocidal cruelty done in God's name by his chosen people, etc. are in the Bible. Hitler had NOTHING on God in the genocide department.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Right, but you already pick and choose, don't you? Do you believe unicorns exist? Do you believe that if animals breed in view of a pole made of a certain kind of wood that their offspring will be spotted? Do you believe that rabbits chew the cud? No? Then you already pick and choose what you believe in the Bible. But again, you didn't answer my specific questions about the specific passages I quoted: I'm sorry, but you didn't answer my specific questions. I'd like to know the specific, detailed reasoning why you believe the following Bible verses are invalidated if alleles in populations change over time. I mean, how does the Flood being an instructive morality tale and the ToE being true destroy, say:
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (NIV, Mark 12:28-31). Specifically, how is this passage invalidated if alleles in populations change over time, or if the flood was a myth? Are you really saying that you cannot treat others as you would want to be treated, if the flood story was mythical, or if alleles change in populations over time? Or, how does realizing that unicorns don't exist, rabbits don't chew cud, and bats are not birds make the following invalid:
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" (Matthew 22:36-38) Specifically, how is the above passage invalidated if we now understand that unicorns don't exist, rabbits do not chew cud, and bats are not birds? Are you really saying that if unicorns do not exist, you can't love God?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Er, racism and the idea that other groups are inferior was present long, long, long before Darwin came along. quote: So you agree that racism is all throughout the bible, correct? The ToE has been misused, just as religions have, to promote racism, it is true. The ToE itself, contrary to many religions, is not racist. Please explain how, "the change in allele frequencies in populations over time" is a racist statement. The quoted phrase above is a basic definition of evolution.
We see it right there in the Bible, in fact. Plenty of slavery, racism, hatred of women, hatred of gentiles, bloodthirsty genocidal cruelty done in God's name by his chosen people, etc. are in the Bible. quote: Except that the rape, pillage, slavery, genocide, and murder happens before, during, and after the ten commandments are given to Moses, IIRC. God's a bloodthirsty, cruel tyrant all over the OT, Beretta.
quote: Oh? Like in Ireland, The Balkans, and the middle east? Those Atheistic lands? The point is, Beretta, Darwin and Evolution didn't usher in a whole new age of genocide, racism, or cruelty. Your Bible and lots of other religions were doing the genocide and murder and slavery things for thousands of years before Darwin. Why don't you try being honest about the violent and genocidal and cruel history of your own religion instead of blaming everything on a scientific theory. You might as well blame the 9/11 WTC bombings on the Wright Brothers.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: The ToE is not a "philosophy", it is a scientific theory of Biology. I am sorry, but you haven't answered the question. Please explain how, "the change in allele frequencies in populations over time" is a racist statement.
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