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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 446 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Thank you. Email notification makes it so much easier to keep track of discussions.
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
I'm continuing to investigate, but I don't think the approach you outline will work. I think it will cause email for all websites hosted on the server to use EvC Forum's IP address. There are three other websites there right now, two of them using email.
AbE: Each site has its own /etc/mail directory in its own virtual area. And root has access to m4. I made the change, ran it through "m4 sendmail.mc >sendmail.cf" (hope that's right), then restarted the mail server (the control panel has a button for this). But I don't know how to check if it's working. This message has been edited by Admin, 12-04-2005 12:16 PM
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I think it will cause email for all websites hosted on the server to use EvC Forum's IP address.
Yes, it will have that effect. The only way around that will involve a little more complexity, and separate sendmail configurations for each site. I don't know how easy that is, because I don't know the details of how the different websites are separated. But I'll work on some ideas for you to consider.
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
Oops, you're too fast. Read my edit to previous email.
I should explain about not knowing how to test this. The Internet headers in email I've received from the site in hte past do not include the previously incorrect 72.4.161.195 address, and so I can't tell if new email that I receive now has correct headers. This message has been edited by Admin, 12-04-2005 12:21 PM
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Mail still shows as coming from 72.4.161.195 and dedicated..
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Each site has its own /etc/mail directory in its own virtual area.
Okay, that gives me a hint on another solution. I will outline the strategy. The way sendmail currently works, mail that originates locally (as in a web application) is first processed using "submit.cf". This causes the message to be sent to the main site sendmail daemon (fia a connectiong to port 25), which then sends it on. It should be possible to use an alternative "submit.cf". Under the alternative, the mail to external sites would be sent immediately, and using the desired local IP. Since "/etc/mail" is virtual, this could be different for each virtual host. Is "/var/spool/clientmqueue" also different for each virtual host?Does each virtual host somehow have its own SMTP daemon, or is there the one daemon for all?
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
Each site has its own /var/spool (which is actually relative to the site's directory and not really at root level), and the root level has its own /var/spool.
AbE: These are the lines from a "ps -ef" that mention sendmail. Are they the right ones?
root 21962 1 0 12:01 ? 00:00:00 sendmail: sm-acceptingconnections: accepting connections smmsp 21974 1 0 12:01 ? 00:00:00 sendmail: sm-client: Queue runner@01:00:00 for /var/spool/cli This message has been edited by Admin, 12-04-2005 01:44 PM
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Thanks.
I'll take a few days testing a suitable configuration.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 446 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
no luck?
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3487 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
Hey nwr,
For the past week my email notifications from those responding to my posts has stopped. Has something changed? Thanks There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it. -Edith Wharton
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I don't know of any change. Maybe Percy can comment. There is also a possibility that your ISP has changed something, and is now blocking this mail.
I will be spending some time on the email issue today (and tomorrow if I don't finish today). In the meantime, I have turned my own email notifications on so that I can at least see if it is working for me.
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
Starting maybe a week ago, the admin mailbox is receiving about 50 messages per day with titles like, "Returned mail: see transcript for details", e.g. (not too many of these):
The original message was received at Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:51:47 -0500 from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- And "Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours", e.g. (many of these):
********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:01:03 -0500 from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] ----- Transcript of session follows ----- And some like this:
********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:44:42 -0500 from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx2.optonline.net.: >>> MAIL From: If there is other information that would be helpful just let me know and I'll try to provide it.
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3487 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
Well I'm on AOL, so some of those may have been mine.
Hopefully it will work itself out. Thanks for checking.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Try 2 for a solution to these problems.
Look in directory "sendmail" under the home directory foruser adminnwr. The files "submit.mc.orig" and "submit.cf.orig" are from thecurrently installed submit.* files in "/etc/mail". The files "submit.mc" and "submit.cf" are the suggested newversions. The file "README.submit" describes what has been changed. To test, simply install the modified "submit.cf" in "/etc/mail". It is not necessary to restart anything. I did send a couple of test messages, which seem to work correctly. I don't have the privileges for a full test. The one drawback is that some messages might build up in "/var/spool/clientmqueue", if the initial attempt to send does not succeed. The best way to handle this is to run a periodic cron job in the correct virtual host context. An alternative would be to just send these to the main sendmail daemon, in which case the resend attempts won't use the correct local IP address. We can discuss that later. My suggestion: Install the replacement "submit.cf" then see how it works out. We can look into other problems at a later time.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That email address is mine and I haven't been receiving notifications for about a week now too.
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