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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. The decay happens/is seen only here. Here in our time. So just because something here takes X amount of time to decay does not mean it does there. You just believed it had to be that way for no real reason.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. I do not trust you.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Some may care what you think.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Since the fishbowl simply refers to the limits of where man has gone, claiming there are no limits is easily refuted.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Whether we use a base line from here in the solar system such as the position earth travels in six months, or whether we use a radius line out where SN is, you cannot simply claim that the lines represent time and space at all points to the star. So the lines you draw are not distance.
As for the decay that we see here, I don't know for sure either way whether it represents what happens where the stars are. We do only see it here after all. The info is seen IN time...time here. So we would have to see things a certain way, because things here in the fishbowl must exist a certain way.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. Of course Christmas and every other day is here in the fishbowl and in our time. Yes, kids should be taught what is actually known and where man has actually traveled. They need some basis in reality, not just your pi in the sky religion.
Even though the probes get further away, expanding where we have been, the distance is so small in the big picture of the universe that it basically could not matter! Who cares if it is a light day, or even several? Your religion claims to describe things billions of...not light days...but light years away!!
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
quote:The real reasons for rise and fall of empires involve man's choice and God. Geography too actually. You have no sound basis. quote:When critical thinking becomes nothing more than religiously omitting all traces of God, it is better called dreaming dreams, making stuff up, or baseless doubts and total leaning to your own limited understanding. quote:How they have failed routinely in predictions and are always surprised at being shown wrong. How most of their cosmo models are pure belief based godless hogwash. Etc. quote: They need to know origin so called science is religion. If they live in a nation with Christian foundations, and/or a Christian majority, they should primarily deal in that when talking beliefs or creation.
quote:I care how far man has actually gone, when they are making claims about where they have not gone. I like to see the basis for the claims, and they have none. quote:We should care about fact and truth. We should resist demented evil delusions. quote:People who try to impose a reality of vile made up dreams and fables are in denial. quote:Nothing is verified and all of it is fishbowl based belief based and God forsaking nonsense that is shown to be false all the time predictably. Science is little more than running around trying to patch up their religion as they get busted, and doing so with more fishbowl philosophy of course. Many tire of that one trick little pony. quote:Great. So?? Life in the fishbowl! quote: When it is different you mean.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
History cannot be understood in any depth without God. You do not have to agree. Perhaps in some country of 95% atheists, you might peddle your godless version of history.
There is no freedom of thought when faith in God and truth is religiously oppressed and denied. As for the failings of science, ideas are constantly being changed as old ones are shown to be wrong. They found comets could not have brought the water in oceans, so they dropped that for example. Of course they jumped to godless belief based conclusions such as 'it must have come from asteroids'. Ha. Your billions of years claims and all origin claims are pure religion. No fact or reality to them whatsoever. You cannot test God or origins with paltry science. Not since science is bound with the straightjacket of fishbowl philsophy, godless conjecture and criteria, and a tiny pool of possible explanations for the unknown. Questioning is fine, but godless inquisition and propaganda is not fine. Tell us how electron density will tell us what time is like?
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Ancient nations believed in spirits. Not all spirits are of God, but that doesn't mean they were not real.
Western history, specifically surrounding Israel and area was totally impacted by prophesy and Scripture. Rome, Greece, Persia, Egypt etc. Now if you want to teach Chinese lore in schools in China, fine. Freedom of religion..? More like..'anything BUT Christ' You say 'science builds a model based on what it knows..' Not about the spiritual aspect of life and history! Science plays around way out in left field, ignoring history and evidences, save the little select few sorts of so called evidences it deems acceptable to it's godless belief system. Imposing beliefs..? I say let a majority decide. If they are Christian...let the main thrust be so. I do not like your beliefs imposed.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
If they believe it over what you say is the truth, who is to decide? If we want ti impose truth, why not start in the idiocy infested schools in the west? They teach kids that they can pick what sex they want to be and get legally accepted!
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Baloney. Science deals in religion. Belief. Godless fable manufacturing. They are in no position to tell any nation that no spirits lived long ago...you kidding? They cannot speak from knowledge on such issues.
History is basically the conquering liars having their records exist where maybe the losers had theirs burned or some such. It is not fact. You need to be able to sort through the garbage and find what is fact or fiction. Teaching history cannot be done right without seeing the great underlying force behind it. Forcing anyone to go to school means that they might need to fit in somewhat with the population, one would think. They should not enter an area with a majority believing one way and expect kid glove treatment for their personal belief system.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
You cannot explain why science of origins is not belief based. It is. Your opinion cannot change it.
The evidence for spirits having lived was that they were known to people then. Science has no ability to confirm or deny. To pretend otherwise is dishonest. History is the story of man. That involves more than ruins. Human behavior is the result of what is in man. One cannot understand sin without understanding creation and God. Private schools? How about if people do not want anything influencing them from the majority, they go private? Meanwhile, one should not have to resort to private education to have majority beliefs included! yOU ARE IN NO POSITION TO TELL ANYONE WHAT FALSEHOOD IS.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
You believe in natural physical laws, and trace them back in your mind to the big bang and man having come from beasts..etc. This you thought was fact.
I believe in a known living proven God, known through history, and proven with prophesy and rising from the dead. I trace back from what He said. My conclusion is that you are in error using the present nature to models the future and past. That is as much fact as anything science can teach.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
I don't think schools anywhere teach baloney like that. The issue is belief based issues. Issues that affect history, sex education, geography, biology, etc. Science has no monopoly on beliefs.
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creation Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
It is. Your opinion cannot change that.
No, different beliefs on creation do exist, and can never be filtered out. Those who have done the filtering will learn better.
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