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NoNukes Inactive Member |
ndeed, respecting the other opinion/s goes a long way to ensuring that your reply is not just a brush-off. Opinions are due only a minimum of respect. If opinions are wrong, respect simply means that the opinion is not simply dismissed, but is rebutted with argument and evidence. No other respect is due. Once the opinion has been completely addressed without rebuttal, mere repetition of the opinion is not due any respect at all. Bad arguments demand even less respect than do wrong opinions. I suppose that makes it okay to call me "testy". I'll have a t-shirt made.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
would much prefer religious beliefs of all kinds are treated the same as astrology and alchemy. But you don't really respond to astrologists and alchemists in the way you address Christians espousing their beliefs, do you?Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Of course not. And for good reason. Do alchemists and astrologists have a stranglehold on progression? Are they entrenched in politics? Is that your impression of the Christian posters here? Do you treat them with disrespect because other Christians have a stranglehold n progression? I can understand your hostility to religion. I don't understand why that stance requires that you disrespect people in this forum, particularly those whose expressed beliefs are not in conflict with science or your personal politics. I'm not condemning you for the tone you use, but I don't find it reasonable. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I'm not sorry that you find my disdain for all religion and blind faith unreasonable. It's not your disdain that that I find unreasonable. What I find off-putting is your overt hostility towards people who aren't bothering you. But that's just my opinion. I don't expect you to change because of it. Others find the same actions part of your charm.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Opinions are due the respect of first understanding the viewpoint of the poster. If the opinion is wrong (in your opinion) then it is due the respect to address the who what where when why and how of it being wrong, rather than dismissal. I think that's pretty much what I said.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
If we can't chastise the moderates (who themselves are silent in regards to the fundies) how can we rightly abuse the fundies??? Come one, come all. But "moderates" are not silent in regards to fundies. In this forum deists, Christians, and atheist alike all seem to be in the same dogpile on top of Creationists and Fluddites. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Besides that, so what? EvC means diddily in regards to the big picture. Given that the only thing I know about you is what you post here, I don't see the relevance.
For example: even the self professed catholics here have a VERY hard time bringing down the pope and admitting the vatican's hands are filthy in regards to the child abuse scandal. Name one such poster. I haven't seen anything like that here, but I don't read every thread.
Perhaps. But they still defend their belief in god because when it comes down to it, they DO still believe in the same god, just in a different way. In other words, your responses to posters don't have much to do with what those posters actually post or what actions they actually take. A belief in Jesus Christ alone is enough reason for vilification. I suppose you'll get around to me at some point.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
So I don't think any of us are effective individually. I think if it's anything it's the overall existence of a place like EvC where the collective argument is the most effective. I don't think we can define effective as convincing Buzsaw or Bertot that orange juice is of an orange color. My goal in debating is to get the ridiculous underpinnings of their arguments in writing and straight from the horses hooves in a matter that others can appreciate. Normally those posters are quite obliging. I think posters like Wounded King, Son Goku, cavediver and Dr. Adequate are quite effective using that measure.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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