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Chuck77
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Message 20 of 48 (636368)
10-06-2011 5:12 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by fizz57102
10-06-2011 4:55 AM


Re: Hefty Cost of Freedon
If I were Amanda Knox, I would stay very far away from Italy.
Yeah, no doubt. As for anyone else I think they''ll be fine. My mother's been to Italy twice in the last 5 years or so and had a great time, along with the millions of people who visit there each year:
With more than 43.2 million tourists a year, Italy is the fourth highest tourist earner,[1] and fifth most visited country in the world, behind France (76.0 million), Spain (55.6 million), United States (49.4 million), and China (46.8). People mainly come to Italy for its rich art, cuisine, history, fashion and culture, its beautiful coastline and beaches, its mountains, and priceless ancient monuments, especially those from the Greek civilization and Roman civilization. Tourism is one of Italy's fastest growing and most profitable industrial sectors, with an estimated revenue of $42.7 billion.
Tourism in Italy - Wikipedia
Let's not ruin Italy for everyone huh? It seems this is an isolated incident and doesn't represent Italy as any different from any other country. We can say the same thing about our judicial system (i.e. Casey Anthony), to name just one.
Atleast Italy finally got it right. Are you going to move now because our system botched the Anthony case? What about the OJ case? It seems Italy wrongly convicted an American and then overturned it.
It seems here in USA we wrongly let two murderers go free. Any angst towards that?
So, when are you leaving and moving to Italy?

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Chuck77
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Message 21 of 48 (636370)
10-06-2011 5:27 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by dronestar
10-05-2011 4:06 PM


Re: Parla Italiano?
dronester writes:
I'm going to Italy Nov 2 thru Nov 11. Anybody know the Italian phrase for: "why am I being arrested?"
(Oh well, if it's an Italian prison, the food should be good)
Don't sweat it. Here is a list of JUST exonerated death row inmates from the United States. Not including all the other prisoners who WEREN'T on death row that had their convictions over turned:
United States1970-19791973.
1. David Keaton Florida (Keaton v. State, 273 So.2d 385 (1973)). Convicted 1971.
1974
2. Samuel A. Poole North Carolina (State v. Poole, 203 S.E.2d 786 (N.C. 1974)). Convicted 1973.
1975.
3. Wilbert Lee Florida (Pitts v. State 247 So.2d 53 (Fla. 1971), overturned and released by pardon in 1975). Convicted 1963.
4. Freddie Pitts Florida (Pitts v. State 247 So.2d 53 (Fla. 1971), overturned and released by pardon in 1975). Convicted 1965.
5. James Creamer Georgia (Emmett v. Ricketts, 397 F. Supp 1025 (N.D. Ga. 1975)). Convicted 1973.
6. Christopher Spicer North Carolina (State v. Spicer, 204 SE 2d 641 (1974)). Convicted 1973.
1976
7. Thomas Gladish New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
8. Richard Greer New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
9. Ronald Keine New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
10. Clarence Smith New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
1977.
11. Delbert Tibbs Florida. Convicted 1974.
1978.
12. Earl Charles Georgia. Convicted 1975.
13. Jonathan Treadway Arizona. Convicted 1975.
1979.
14. Gary Beeman Ohio. Convicted 1976.
1980-19891980
15. Jerry Banks.
16. Larry Hicks.
1981
17. Charles Ray Giddens.
18. Michael Linder.
19. Johnny Ross.
20. Ernest (Shuhaa) Graham.
1982
21. Annibal Jaramillo.
22. Lawyer Johnson Massachusetts (Commonwealth v. Johnson, 429 N.E.2d 726 (1982)). Convicted 1971.
1985
23. Larry Fisher.
1986
24. Anthony Brown.
25. Neil Ferber.
26. Clifford Henry Bowen.
1987
27. Joseph Green Brown.
28. Perry Cobb.
29. Darby (Williams) Tillis.
30. Vernon McManus.
31. Anthony Ray Peek.
32. Juan Ramos.
33. Robert Wallace.
1988
34. Richard Neal Jones.
35. Willie Brown.
36. Larry Troy.
1989
37. Randall Dale Adams Texas (Ex Parte Adams, 768 S.W.2d 281) (Tex. Crim App. 1989). Convicted 1977[3][4].
38. Robert Cox.
39. James Richardson.
On April 8, 2010, former death row inmate Timothy B. Hennis, once exonerated in 1989, was reconvicted of a triple murder, thereby dropping him from the list of those exonerated. [1] Sentenced to death by military court-martial 15 April 2010
1990-19991990
40. Clarence Brandley Texas (Ex Parte Brandley, 781 S.W.2d 886 (Tex. Crim App. 1989). Convicted 1981.
41. John C. Skelton.
42. Dale Johnston.
43. Jimmy Lee Mathers.
1991
44. Gary Nelson.
45. Bradley P. Scott.
46. Charles Smith.
1992
47. Jay C. Smith Pennsylvania. Convicted 1986.
1993
48. Kirk Bloodsworth Maryland. Convicted 1984. Exonerated 1993; first prisoner to be exonerated by DNA evidence. Serving life in prison when exonerated, as earlier death sentence was overturned.
49. Federico M. Macias.
50. Walter McMillan.
51. Gregory R. Wilhoit Oklahoma. Convicted 1987. Along with Ron Williamson, Wilhoit later became the subject of John Grisham's 2006 non-fiction book The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town[5].
52. James Robison.
53. Muneer Deeb.
1994
54. Andrew Golden.
1995
55. Adolph Munson.
56. Robert Charles Cruz.
57. Rolando Cruz.
58. Alejandro Hernndez.
59. Sabrina Butler.
1996
60. Joseph Burrows. Joseph Burrows was released from death row after his attorney Kathleen Zellner persuaded the real killer to confess at the post-conviction hearing.
61. Verneal Jimerson.
62. Dennis Williams.
63. Roberto Miranda.
64. Gary Gauger
65. Troy Lee Jones.
66. Carl Lawson.
67. David Wayne Grannis.
1997
68. Ricardo Aldape Guerra.
69. Benjamin Harris.
70. Robert Hayes.
71. Christopher McCrimmon.
72. Randall Padgett.
It is later revealed, through additional research by Prof. Samuel Gross of the University of Michigan, that though James Bo Cochran was acquitted of murder, he did plead guilty to a robbery charge in an agreement made with prosecutors prior to his release. Therefore, Cochran is no longer on the list of those exonerated from death row. [2]
1998
73. Robert Lee Miller, Jr.
74. Curtis Kyles.
1999
75. Shareef Cousin Louisiana (Louisiana v. Cousin, 710 So. 2d 1065 (1998)). Convicted 1996.
76. Anthony Porter Illinois. Convicted 1983.
77. Steven Smith.
78. Ronald Williamson Oklahoma. Convicted 1988. Along with Gregory R. Wilhoit, Williamson later became the inspiration for and subject of John Grisham's 2006 non-fiction book The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town[5].
79. Ronald Jones.
80. Clarence Dexter, Jr.
81. Warren Douglas Manning.
82. Alfred Rivera.
2000-20092000
83. Steve Manning.
84. Eric Clemmons.
85. Joseph Nahume Green.
86. Earl Washington Virginia (pardoned). Convicted 1994 (1984, without life sentence).
87. William Nieves.
88. Frank Lee Smith (died prior to exoneration).
89. Michael Graham.
90. Albert Burrell.
91. Oscar Lee Morris.
2001
92. Peter Limone.
93. Gary Drinkard.
94. Joachin Jos Martnez.
95. Jeremy Sheets.
96. Charles Fain.
2002
97. Juan Roberto Melendez-Colon Florida. Convicted 1984.
98. Ray Krone Arizona (State v. Krone, 897 P.2d 621 (Ariz. 1995) (en banc)). Convicted 1992.
99. Thomas Kimbell, Jr.
100. Larry Osborne.
2003
101. Aaron Patterson.
102. Madison Hobley.
103. Leroy Orange.
104. Stanley Howard.
105. Rudolph Holton.
106. Lemuel Prion.
107. Wesley Quick.
108. John Thompson.
109. Timothy Howard Ohio. Convicted 1976.
110. Gary Lamar James Ohio. Convicted 1976.
111. Joseph Amrine.
112. Nicholas Yarris Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania v. Yarris, No 690-OF1982, Court of Common Pleas, Delaware County, September 3, 2003. Order vacating conviction). Convicted 1982.
2004
113. Alan Gell.
114. Gordon Steidl.
115. Laurence Adams.
116. Dan L. Bright.
117. Ryan Matthews.
118. Ernest Ray Willis.
2005
119. Derrick Jamison.
120. Harold Wilson.
2006
121. John Ballard.
2007
122. Curtis McCarty.
123. Michael McCormick.
124. Jonathon Hoffman.
2008
125. Kennedy Brewer Mississippi. Convicted 1995.
126. Glen Edward Chapman North Carolina. Convicted 1995.
127. Levon "Bo" Jones[6] North Carolina. Convicted 1993.
128. Michael Blair Texas.
2009
129. Nathson Fields Illinois. Convicted 1986.
130. Paul House Tennessee. Convicted 1986.
131. Daniel Wade Moore Alabama. Convicted 2002.
132. Ronald Kitchen Illinois. Convicted 1988.
133. Herman Lindsey Florida. Convicted 2006.
134. Michael Toney Texas. Convicted 1999. (Toney later died in a car accident on October 3, 2009, just one month and a day after his exoneration.)[7].
135. Yancy Douglas Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
136. Paris Powell Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
137. Robert Springsteen Texas. Convicted 2001.
2010-20192010
138. Anthony Graves Texas. Convicted 1994.
2011
139. Cory Maye Mississippi. Convicted 2004
List of exonerated death row inmates - Wikipedia
So, maybe what you need to learn instead of the Italian phrase for "why am I being arrested" is, "when can I get the next plane to Italy?"
Don't be so narrow minded. We all have our faults, America included.
Edited by Chuck77, : spelling

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Chuck77
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Message 22 of 48 (636372)
10-06-2011 5:46 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Dr Adequate
10-03-2011 9:41 PM


Dr Adequate writes:
crashfrog writes:
Which is too bad, because the emerging research is that vengeance actually does make you feel better ...
I knew it! And as for the fools who told me different, I shall make them suffer!
Er ... can I see some of this research, please?
Boy, you really are a peice of work. You need research to see that vengeance(revenge) makes one feel better? Wait let me guess, you are of the ilk that subscribes to " the best revenge is to live the best life you can and achive the success you want and blah blah blah".
Your arrogance is littered with almost every post you make. For someone who comes down on Christians all the time you sure do act like the HOLIEST one here. It's amazing you can actually live with yourself.
So tell us Mr. live life to the fullest, you've never felt the need to get revenge before and experienced how good it would feel but decided not to go thru with it?
Your comments are always a good laugh for me, thanks. Keep up the good work, I know it's gotta be hard but if anyone can keep it up it would be you.

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