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Author Topic:   How can we regulate the news media
Dr Adequate
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Message 37 of 69 (688093)
01-19-2013 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by AZPaul3
01-18-2013 8:59 PM


Re: From the interwebs
Do you have any examples?
Something like this?
Fortunately, no-one was killed. Still, it shows what the media can achieve.

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Message 39 of 69 (688099)
01-19-2013 1:42 AM
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01-19-2013 1:28 AM


Re: From the interwebs
I'm not sure we can blame the media for the lack of intellect, critical thinking skills and just plain common sense that some people exhibit.
Isn't that rather like saying that we can't blame a conman for the gullibility of his victim? True, we can't, but as no-one actually does that that would be something of a strawman. What we can and do do is blame the conman for exploiting the gullibility of his victim.

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Message 40 of 69 (688112)
01-19-2013 4:16 AM
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01-18-2013 7:21 PM


Re: Good Idea
I was quite interested in that NBC fiasco 20 years ago, and can confidently state that bicyclist Lance Armstrong's lie is getting far more press attention today than NBC's lie did then.
If you and I both know about something that happened 20 years ago, in my case when I was a teenager and living in another country, then I think we can say that it has received extensive public exposure.
NBC could also have been on the take from plaintiff's lawyers and others who stood to make big money with lawsuits against GM. A NEWS ORGANIZATION TAKING BRIBES TO MISREPRESENT THE NEWS AND ATTEMPT TO DISHONESTLY BRING A CORPORATION DOWN.
But to be fair to NBC, that's imaginary. Can't you just castigate them for the stuff that they actually did? That's bad enough.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 46 of 69 (688129)
01-19-2013 10:52 AM
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01-19-2013 9:36 AM


Re: From the interwebs
Then we blame the pretty girl for setting off the stalker?
No. 'Cos that's different.
I recognize the power of the media. After all advertizing works. But the intent of advertizing is to increase sales not increase shoplifting. In this case the intent of the media was to convince a political opinion, not convince someone to go kill.
Well, the intention of the conman is to make himself rich, he has no particular interest in making his victim poor. It just works out that way.

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Message 50 of 69 (688151)
01-19-2013 4:25 PM
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01-19-2013 1:18 PM


Re: From the interwebs
Quibble. The intention of the con man is to commit fraud which is to knowingly take value from his victim thus making him poorer. So, yes, the con man has a very personal interest in making his victim poorer.
No, his interest is in making himself richer. He wouldn't be deterred from his crime if, for example, the victim was insured and ended up no poorer. Just so long as he ends up with more money, he's happy.
In the same way, I suppose that at least the more cynical sections of the right-wing media don't want to produce screaming twitching paranoid lunatics as such. It's just an inevitable consequence of their marketing strategy.

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Message 59 of 69 (688541)
01-23-2013 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by marc9000
01-22-2013 7:48 PM


Re: another Faux Noise example
I don’t completely agree with it, but other networks all do similar things to prominent Republicans, Quayle and Gingrich come to mind.
Examples?
Obama is the president, if there is a valid suspicion about Obama's background ...
But it's not valid.
If Fox News have a duty to boost Birthers, then they would also have had a duty to boost 9/11 Truthers. They had their suspicions, and no-one else in the media was taking it seriously ... so why didn't Fox News step up?

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