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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Panda, it's not nice when somebody proves you wrong. It's kinda frustrating.
That video is poorly made. I hope you don't judge me by it! Well, it's been nice splitting hairs with you. As you say- see ya!
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Personal Incredulity? If I read it in Wiki, that's still 'Personal Incredulity' to you Yup. In this case Wikipedia is also engaged in personal incredulity
As for the 'observed omni-directional expansion of the Observable Universe,' don't forget that this 'expansion' is 'accelerating'. Both are important to me. The former disproves your "theory", so you are ignoring it
as it shows our direction - Inwards. (page 1) Assuming your conclusion again.
Can you see beyond the Observable Universe, JonF? Do tell me. Same answer as last time. I'm amazed that you think you can.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
jonF, if Gravity built the Universe Nobody thinks that.
it evolved from a huge cloud of hydrogen, it's finite Not necessarily, if that cloud of hydrogen was infinite. And, of course, there's lots going on before a cloud oF hydrogen.
I'm actually looking for a bit of agreement in this thread. I've already agreed that I can't see beyond the OU, although you seem to think you can. When your claims are correct or reasonable, we'll agree. Nobody's going to agree to loony unfounded ideas that ignore vast swathes of contradictory evidence.
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Catholic Scientist, I don't want to argue 'barycenter' with you. I think there are more interesting matters within the Observable Universe (OU) don't you?
This 'accelerating expansion' the OU is engaged in. The only kind of expansion that accelerates and keeps accelerating is Inward. Did you read my 'Observational Evidence' on page 1? If you haven't, I think you should.
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Catholic Scientist, I don't want to argue 'barycenter' with you. I think there are more interesting matters within the Observable Universe (OU) don't you?
This 'accelerating expansion' the OU is engaged in. The only kind of expansion that accelerates and keeps accelerating is Inward. Did you read my 'Observational Evidence' on page 1? If you haven't, I think you should.
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
JonF, your Universe is infinite? Let's see...
Even one second after the Big-Bang, even travelling at the speed of light, your Universe couldn't have been wider than 400,000 miles. That 400,000 miles is a finite number, isn't it? So how do you go from finite to infinite. Is it something that happens fast, or perhaps only very slowly? Do tell.
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
JonF, your Universe is infinite? Let's see...
Even one second after the Big-Bang, even travelling at the speed of light, your Universe couldn't have been wider than 400,000 miles. That 400,000 miles is a finite number, isn't it? So how do you go from finite to infinite. Is it something that happens fast, or perhaps only very slowly? Do tell.
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Yes Panda - the weight at the barycenter, includuing the weight of the teeter-totter is going to be at least 200 pounds. You can't see this?
That's why you like splitting hairs - it's easier than coming up with something of your own. Well good luck, and as you say, 'Bye'.
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
JonF, Whatever!
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Admin Director Posts: 13042 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Peter, do you remember what you're doing that is so consistently causing double posts? If you can tell me what is doing it then I may be able to fix it.
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Percy, how can you say the expansion deccelrerated? There is absolutely no evidence - zero - for any 'slowing down' or 'deccelerating' of the expansion. If I say you are talking thru' your hat, you can't prove me wrong.
The expansion began slowly, but has since accelerated and continues to accelerate. Just because I say Gravity runs the Universe, you think I'm not well, but Gravity is real and the jury is still out on 'Anti-Gravity.' It's Gravity that keeps us orbiting the sun, not Anti-Gravity. Get youir thumb out of your mouth and wake up, Percy.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Percy, how can you say the expansion deccelrerated? There is absolutely no evidence - zero - for any 'slowing down' or 'deccelerating' of the expansion. Finally a reasonable question. The current theory is that the universe began with a period of inflation during which the size of the universe increased by a factor of 1050 or so. This inflationary period accounts for a number of observable phenomena in the universe Physics - Can we test inflationary expansion of the early universe?
quote: Of course the universe is not expanding at anything like that early rate. So the rate of expansion must have slowed before accelerating as is doing today. Further it is space that is expanding. You talk about us epxanding towards a black hole as if expansion means that objects in space are all moving apart through space. This is absolutely the wrong picture of what expansion is all about. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Panmdas, I'm not interersted in this 'average density' thing. I'm getting kinda tired of answering your posts.
What I want to know is; Can you see beyond the Observable Universe?
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Panmdas, I'm not interersted in this 'average density' thing. I'm getting kinda tired of answering your posts.
What I want to know is; Can you see beyond the Observable Universe?
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Peter Lamont Member (Idle past 3971 days) Posts: 147 Joined: |
Hi Admin, it's my fault - sometimes when I'm scrolling thru', I see something that I think needs an answer and only later I realise I've already answered. Sorry, I'll watch that!
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