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Author Topic:   If God Ever Stopped Intervening In Nature....
kofh2u
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Message 36 of 708 (705187)
08-24-2013 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
08-13-2013 9:13 AM


Re: If God Ever Stopped Intervening In Nature....
I have come across the idea that some god set things in motion and then left the universe entirely to it's own devices. I have come across the idea that some god set things in motion and then watched the universe unfold but gave the odd helping hand or caused the odd miracle here and there.
Its like the First Cause kind of definition for a Creator God.
It is as good as saying that the material universe was the consequence of some dark energy that pre-existed the Big Bang, and was converted into the Cosmos of Matter and the accompanying Space/time required to hold it.
But continuing that line of reasoning, the Natural Laws inherent in the Physics of Energy might be consider the Spirit of that god which did not disappear, and continued to run the machinery behind a world wherein all things are possible according to the Law of Probability.
Miracles abound when we consider the odds against events we know to have transpired which were very unlikely at the time.
And, true, even the Laws of Physics are in play when we breathe, this Spirit of God at work at all times.

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kofh2u
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Message 37 of 708 (705188)
08-24-2013 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by shadow71
08-21-2013 9:09 PM


Re: If God Ever Stopped Intervening In Nature....
God controls our life, but we have the free will to reject God, and then our providence is very different from the eternal salvation, God grants through his son Jesus, who gave his human life for the forgiveness of our sins.
You are merely saying that Reality, and the sanity of living in Reality is what ought control our decisions in this life, if one removes the charged and misleading theological jargon while examining what you say here in the light of a Creator God whose spirit is still at work as that Network of Natural Laws which unfold every next frame of Reality.
When Jesus said, "I am the Truth," and you must be believe in "me," as the symbol of Truth, he was stating this same idea that Truth is the image of Reality we need picture in our mind before we made decisions, or we chance the insanity of opposing the father to the next frame of our existence.

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