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NoNukes
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Message 4 of 32 (710762)
11-10-2013 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by RAZD
11-10-2013 2:22 PM


Re: open minded skepticism
Obviously, imho, the first approach would not have either found the fur sample nor tested it.
Were the samples found by yeti hunters? Was there some reason that a disbeliever in Yetis would not have tested samples from an unknown animal?
Finally, does anyone think the animal is a yeti?
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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Message 6 of 32 (710772)
11-10-2013 7:19 PM
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11-10-2013 5:28 PM


Re: open minded skepticism
he would likely have claimed that the hairs came from some other animal, such as the Himalayan Goral.
Well, the test indicated that the animal was a bear which means it is not a Yeti. Yet the test was still conducted.
A yeti is supposedly some kind of ape. Just being highly and rationally skeptical that there is some kind of snow ape living in the Himalayas does not make unreasonable to wonder just what kind of animal some sample does come from.
NoNukes writes:
Were the samples found by yeti hunters?
Immaterial to the question of whether the disbeliever would have looked\hunted for yeti or tested the evidence.
If the sample was not found by someone hunting for yeti, that suggests that a belief in yeti's is not relevant to the finding of the sample. Further, there are plenty of reasons to test the fur of an unknown animal without wondering if it is a yeti. I
So yeah. The question is relevant.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 10 of 32 (710862)
11-11-2013 10:06 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by RAZD
11-11-2013 5:42 PM


Re: open minded skepticism
Yes, ... if you are open-minded.
I suppose I should simply state my point. Being open minded means simply not denying that there might be some unknown animal out there. One can be open minded in that way and still absolutely deny that there is an abominable snow man.
In short being complete closed minded in the way you described in the OP, being close-minded skepticism (or narrow minded skepticism): disbelief in the concept of Yeti's to the extent where you are going to deny that anything is a Yeti, won't interfere with your classifying some unknown animal as a bear. In fact it might make such a classification more likely.
t does not require that someone is actively "hunting for yeti" -- all that is needed is someone finding a sample and wondering if it may be from a yeti.
The scientist need not have any idea or question about whether the animal was a yeti. All he needs to do is acknowledge that he does not know what it was.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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